MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V2 Released

[tonybologna]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedSoxFan13

http://www.mediafire.com/download/mk...verdka/PS3.zip That should be the rosters with the PD update. This roster is not mine, just taken straight from the vault and uploaded.

Quote: Originally Posted by Maccydude

Love the rosters, they have really changed the way I view the game. Even if franchise is broken on the PS3 still it's not too bad since the game is so much fun to play with these rosters. Thanks to everyone who made this possible. As for the file I'm on my way out so I'm hurrying and have no idea if I did this right or if it'll work. There's a playstation plus marker next to the option to copy files and I'm not a plus member. If I did it incorrectly hopefully someone else can help out. Or I'll do it correctly tomorrow.

Thanks for sharing & posting the offline files guys. I assume these are both the PD update? I know one is for sure because the poster stated it was. The other poster didn't specifically state which update it was. Thanks again guys for doing this!

[CaseIH]

I thought rather than to just discount this roster all together, I would play a game with them. Unlike some others I dont buy to much into overalls as long as the player is rated accurately, and imo I feel for the most part players are rated accurately in what I have seen so far.

I have to say as far as gameplay goes these play a very good game, and with the additions of the pitch edits I dont feel K'ing guys is quite as easy as it was with the default repertoires and ratings. Usually its the other way around, but not this year. Usually trying to get accurate K totals was basically inpossible up until this year, but it was a tad to easy, with using QC's anyway, but with these rosters Id say its pretty accurate.

My main issue has always been these not being set to opening day like the OSFM original roster, and its quite a bear to try and get it bacdated especially all the way thru the minors, cause I do play a lot of MILB games. But its your guys choice since you put all the hard work in, so I understand you should do it how you prefer.

As far as ratings goes the only real huge issue I see and it was the case last year is speed ratings. Yadia Molina has a 18 speed in default, which is accurate for him as he is pretty dam slow, but you have him rated as a 62 I believe which makes him on of the faster C in the game. Is that a error, or is that that the rating you cam up with? I believ last year you had his speed jacked up to, but I think it was in the 40's then. LH/RH splits has always been a little odd to me, because alot of guys dont hit both well, especially not for power, and I see some of the power splits seem a tad high for the side they hit the worst on.

All in all after looking more in depth into these rosters, I believe they are solid, and definitely worth atleast trying out for people who dont quite understand the overalls being low. I know I seen where Cutch had some issue with people thinking he should be higher. IMO 90+ is HOF worthy and as of now he isnt a HOF'er, but could be in time, so his rating looks fine to me. Maybe its my dislike for him, so I could be bias on that,lol. But I believe you probably have Votto rated to high and Im a Red fans, so Im not 100% homer all the time,lol.

Anyway I appreciate your effort that was put into these, aspecially the more I dig into looking into the ratings as a whole. Always going to be some oddities in a system that you use, but SCEA has a lot of oddities too, so nothing is perfect, and they make the game.

I actually might take Totte backdated roster and try to set things back to like the original OSFM rosters were, along with fixing some speed rating for guys like Y Molina who most can crawl faster than he runs, unless you can give me a logical reason why this was done that Im not seeing or understanding.

[Totte]

Quote: Originally Posted by CaseIH

As far as ratings goes the only real huge issue I see and it was the case last year is speed ratings. Yadia Molina has a 18 speed in default, which is accurate for him as he is pretty dam slow, but you have him rated as a 62 I believe which makes him on of the faster C in the game. Is that a error, or is that that the rating you cam up with? I believ last year you had his speed jacked up to, but I think it was in the 40's then. I actually might take Totte backdated roster and try to set things back to like the original OSFM rosters were, along with fixing some speed rating for guys like Y Molina who most can crawl faster than he runs, unless you can give me a logical reason why this was done that Im not seeing or understanding.

I replied to the Yadi Molina speed a page or two back as I'm the one who told Willard to bump his speed. Yadi stole 12 bases in 2012 and has stolen 4/year on average in his career. I agree 62 might be a bit high but he should be more of a 50-55 if we want to see him steal a bag at all in the game

[Totte]

Some minor corrections:

Nolan Reimold should be LF/1B instead of LF/OF

Cards OF prospect is Tommy Pham, not Thomas. (The BA handbook refers to him as Tommy and so does the Redbirds radio)

Irving Falu has 0 in steal aggr.

Johnny Hellweg has 0 in BB

Chris Stratton needs some love as he's the Giants 3rd best prospect in the BA Handbook. He's among the worst rated players in the Giants organization

[CaseIH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Totte

I replied to the Yadi Molina speed a page or two back as I'm the one who told Willard to bump his speed. Yadi stole 12 bases in 2012 and has stolen 4/year on average in his career. I agree 62 might be a bit high but he should be more of a 50-55 if we want to see him steal a bag at all in the game

I thought the steal rating, and agg rating is what effected stolen bases, not neccesarily speed rating. He is extremely slow footed, but yeah he has stolen a few bases. Stealing bases is really more about technique than speed to a certain degree. Derrick Robinson who played for the Reds last year is extremely fast but he is very poor at stealing bases.

If speed does effect how often a player attempts a steal along with success rate then I understand why the odd ratings for speed. I did notice that Zach Cozart had like a 80 for stealing, and he didnt even attempt to steal a base last year and so far this year he has attempted one either.

Maybe I dont undertsand speed and baserunning abilities ratings for the way SCEA attended, that coudl be very possible. I do know IRL Cozart dont steal bases nor is he very smart on the bases, his IQ for baserunning is pretty bad, along with almost every Reds player, except for Billy Hamilton,lol. Some of the mistakes they make is unbelieveable, as its stuff your suppose to be taught at a young age, smh

Thanks for the reply Totte. I probably wont be using these anyway, as I prefer OD rosters and close to accurate minors, but hadnt quite made up my mind yet. There is a lot of things I like about the Hybrid roster, but a few things I dont, but mainly opening day accuracy is the big thing for me, so I will probably end up using the OSFM with pitch edits that Nola did whne its all said and done.

[Totte]

Quote: Originally Posted by CaseIH

I thought the steal rating, and agg rating is what effected stolen bases, not neccesarily speed rating. He is extremely slow footed, but yeah he has stolen a few bases. Stealing bases is really more about technique than speed to a certain degree. Derrick Robinson who played for the Reds last year is extremely fast but he is very poor at stealing bases. If speed does effect how often a player attempts a steal along with success rate then I understand why the odd ratings for speed. I did notice that Zach Cozart had like a 80 for stealing, and he didnt even attempt to steal a base last year and so far this year he has attempted one either. Maybe I dont undertsand speed and baserunning abilities ratings for the way SCEA attended, that coudl be very possible. I do know IRL Cozart dont steal bases nor is he very smart on the bases, his IQ for baserunning is pretty bad, along with almost every Reds player, except for Billy Hamilton,lol. Some of the mistakes they make is unbelieveable, as its stuff your suppose to be taught at a young age, smh Thanks for the reply Totte. I probably wont be using these anyway, as I prefer OD rosters and close to accurate minors, but hadnt quite made up my mind yet. There is a lot of things I like about the Hybrid roster, but a few things I dont, but mainly opening day accuracy is the big thing for me, so I will probably end up using the OSFM with pitch edits that Nola did whne its all said and done.

I agree with you that stealing bases is more of an art form than pure wheels. In The Show, I've always viewed at the Aggressiveness and Baserunning ability creates a variable on how often and how successfully a player tries to steal. With the speed rating, it's all about getting from A to B in the fastest way possible. Some sort of mix with these variables boils down to X amount of SB's each year in the game but IMO it doesn't matter how aggressive you are unless you have the speed to do what you want on the basepaths. Does that make sense?

The values for Cozart's ratings are probably based on some zip numbers in a chart. Good that you brought this to our attention so that he can be lowered a couple of points.

Don't forget my OD version of this Hybrid set. It also comes with pitch edits and the PD+5 fix.

[PleasedToMeetMe]

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

As promised, I finally got in some gameplay and played my first series in my Twins 'chise. Here are the highlights from games 1 and 3 of that series at the White Sox. This vid is mostly so you guys can see how Willard and Co's amazing rosters are playing. Took 2 of 3 from the Sox and not surprisingly the Sox were playing AL-style with the long ball, whereas my calling card is more of an NL game with defense and a stingy bullpen (like in real life). Notice the go ahead sac fly near the end of the video--the throw actually beat me by a good 15 feet, but Flowers bobbled the ball (not shown). Adam Eaton also had some adventures in CF. The song playing is called "Naked Cities" by Buke and Gase.

Great video and gameplay mate.
Please could you provide us(me) a list of the 15 players you send down for all teams before end spring training (call up after enter season mode)?

[CaseIH]

Quote: Originally Posted by Totte

I agree with you that stealing bases is more of an art form than pure wheels. In The Show, I've always viewed at the Aggressiveness and Baserunning ability creates a variable on how often and how successfully a player tries to steal. With the speed rating, it's all about getting from A to B in the fastest way possible. Some sort of mix with these variables boils down to X amount of SB's each year in the game but IMO it doesn't matter how aggressive you are unless you have the speed to do what you want on the basepaths. Does that make sense? The values for Cozart's ratings are probably based on some zip numbers in a chart. Good that you brought this to our attention so that he can be lowered a couple of points. Don't forget my OD version of this Hybrid set. It also comes with pitch edits and the PD+5 fix.

Yeah I knew you were doing the backdate , but your just setting the ML rosters and players that were injured IRL will be on the OD rosters right? I prefer having things like lineups,rotations and minor leagues accurate to opening day with injured players in A ball. I thought about taking the time and getting yours back to that of the OSFM original, but Im not that energetic or patient to do it when Nola has added pitch edits to the opening day set of the origninal OSFM. Just a few things that Im not real big on with the Hybrid, but it does have some things I do like too, and I get what they were trying to do with the ZIPs, and from that standpoint it looks good, but I htink when I weight the 2 rosters, I will probably end up not using the Hybrid, cause I will do my rerates, and I do prefer the 3yr weighted system a little more than the ZIPs prediction.

Thanks for getting back to me though, I appreciate it. If you are setting everything back to opening day and I have misunderstood then let me know, cause if it is set to that of the orginaly OSFM then I would probably end up using it.