MLB 14 The Show OSFM Hybrid Roster - V1 Release

[cultbuscus]

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

Thanks for the update. The three of you are making some very nice progress! With 5 teams to go and an assortment of FA and MiLB guys (most of which have no pitch edits to input anyway), it looks like maybe 3 hours to go until pitch edits are complete assuming ILFT continues to crank on the last teams. It certainly seems like a release of V2 is possible tonight, but even if that doesn't happen, I would LOVE () to get my hands on the pitch edits version when you are done so I can run some sims to test offense/pitching balance. I am really excited to see how the pitch edits will affect things on its own.

We were just discussing the assortment. We will do all minor leaguers and only a handful of top-flight free agents we think will likely be signed. If we do not do a free-agent you want, you can always go to Seanjeezy's Google Spreadsheet, and input them yourself once you get your hands on the roster

I would like to think that a release tonight is possible. If it isn't, then it will definitely be out tomorrow.

Edit: For overalls, it did some interesting things. On the teams that I did, the most notable changes off the top of my head were Doug Fister and Stephen Strasburg. I don't remember Fister's original ratings (maybe someone can check for me) but he has a wicked curveball and change up, and it shot him up to being a 90 overall. Strasburg, who was a 91, went down to an 88, which was weird, but I think is very much attributed to how bad his slider is rated.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Quote: Originally Posted by cultbuscus

We were just discussing the assortment. We will do all minor leaguers and only a handful of top-flight free agents we think will likely be signed. If we do not do a free-agent you want, you can always go to Seanjeezy's Google Spreadsheet, and input them yourself once you get your hands on the roster I would like to think that a release tonight is possible. If it isn't, then it will definitely be out tomorrow.

I agree that not editing all the FA pitchers is the way to go. If you run some sims, you see that 90+% of those guys retire due to poor FA market anyway and never have any impact on anything.

[Willard76]

I apologize for not organizing all of these answers to match the subject, there are just a ton of posts - you guys were busy while I drove home from work!

Quote: Originally Posted by URBYJT

I would say suggest some edits instead of just a blanket "way better" I think these types of ratings they used are killer for a guy like Josh Donaldson, considering he just recently broke out after 1.5 years of mediocre MLB ball.

We have a list and have decided to look at ZiPs Updates to correct some players for this year - please don't send us lists of players - we have a hit list for this release

Quote: Originally Posted by seanjeezy

His preseason ZiPS projection seems to heavily weigh his 2012 season, the updated projection is much better (don't know if those are being used for the hybrid roster though).

We did not for the first release - second release will look at updates

Quote: Originally Posted by jmurphy

As a twins fan, I love what you guys did with the twins roster. Interesting to see what Willard said about the overalls being true. Mauer is actually a very good player in this roster with 80s contact and 80s fielding but his 40 power rating knocks him down to a 78 overall. So its true to say DONT LOOK AT OVERALL. A couple changes I would suggest would be giving Brian Dozier a power boost (as was mentioned earlier)... he is after all having an allstar caliber season with 11 bombs already. Also I think he should get a bit of a fielding boost as well, he's always been regarded as one of the best fielding 2B in the game. Trevor Plouffe probably needs a very small contact and power boost, but where you have him now isn't too far off, he's just doing a bit of raking this season (finally), and is leading the league in doubles. Also Danny Santana's fielding may be a tad too high, still fairly raw as a SS and i feel his fielding and especially arm strength is inflating him a bit. Pitching wise, Kyle Gibson should have a higher stamina rating as he's gone through 7 a couple times this year, should definitely have better per 9 ratings and clutch than Correia and certainly Pelfrey lol. Finally more of a wish but Phil Hughes has been insane this year. 4-0 in his last 6 with no walks surrendered in his last 44.2 innings. Possibly a boost to his per 9 and clutch as he has become unquestionably the twins best starter. Also Sam Deduno should now be listed as a starter, and Sam Fuld should be number 1 rather than number 5. Thanks boys, as always a fantastic job! These are all minor details that I just noticed being a hardcore fan of the team. On another note, I'm happy with Buxton and Sano exactly where you have them. Thanks again for all the hard work this year.

Thank you, I will check those guys, I had seen them mentioned before - plus I have Hughes on my Fantasy team - we won't be downgrading players like Nolasco yet

Quote: Originally Posted by Joba62

Do you guys think Lawrie's main position should be 2b? He plays there more this year because of Juan Fransisco. 13 out of 19 games this month he has played 2b.

He is still a 3B for now, if the Blue Jays make him a full time 2B we will change it

Quote: Originally Posted by davis25

Funny, I just simmed 3 years of original osfm roster and only got 10 total guys hitting over .300 and just 25 over .290. This is all on average of 3 years as well. So the guys whining that these rosters are fubar, are completely wrong! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I found the same thing - I simmed the default, OSFM1, OSFM2 and compared results to our roster as far as looking into the k/PA and bb/PA numbers for all 4 - something going on with the sim engine

Quote: Originally Posted by WaitTilNextYear

But the 25 should be over .300 not .290. In the past 5 years, there have been at least 20 batters hitting over .300 per season in MLB. Doing at least 20 sims, the most I saw was 12. It's definitely not fubar, but it could use a boost.

Just answered this one above - I think - giving boosts was tried in all hitting areas and also through a variety of different categories

Quote: Originally Posted by URBYJT

Potential is a rating that can change on it's own. 87 for Springer seems about right. But yeah you're right, in the sims I was running, I has a lot of Oscar Taveras MVPs.

Taveras was missed by accident - our bad on that

Quote: Originally Posted by P.A.D.

How about the OSFM V2 roster? Any sims with that one?

Yes, look a few answers above

Quote: Originally Posted by davis25

Willard, cant send u any pm's due to your messages are full! Ive got the last set of sim numbers, will send them in a bit when u clear it out! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Had a ton of PM's - cleaned it out now

Quote: Originally Posted by parky_17

I think they should of been left on the 40 man roster though because when you start a franchise they'll all be left in A ball for the season when some of them will still play this season IRL

If you use 30 team control and allow the CPU to control rosters or 40 man rosters they will get back in.

Quote: Originally Posted by P.A.D.

WOW, I'm honestly speechless. I was one of the proponents of the dude who came in here complaining about only seeing three .300+ hitters, but apparently this is an issue with OSFM and OSFM V2, which clearly shows it's an issue with the sim engine in general and not the rosters. Willard said he tried to combat this problem, but in all his sims, he just couldn't and it was eating at him. Very interesting! Good job, guys!

Still bugging me tonight, but realize I can't fix it - we went as far as bumping up a handful of players 15 ratings points and while we got some better numbers on some sims - we got ugly numbers the next

Quote: Originally Posted by The Kid 24

Is Totte still doing the OD thing?

Yes, I was talking to him today - he has been helping me create my hitlist of corrections

Quote: Originally Posted by parky_17

The CPU teams, I can do my team manually because the spots are left open which is why I don't understand why they were taken off in the first place becaue they haven't been replaced by anyone

Which team was that - we may have missed promoting someone

Quote: Originally Posted by cultbuscus

Quick update on the rosters. Just finished the Rockies, passed it off to iliveforthis. That leaves 5 teams (Royals, Tigers, Twins, White Sox, and Yankees), as well as a bunch of free agents and minor league players. I think a V2 release tonight is possible but I cannot say for sure. I don't know how many edits Willard wants to make, and I cannot say how many of the free agents and the minor leaguers we will do.

All depends on what time we get the roster back - by 7 or maybe 8, I could possibly have the edits done tonight, if not it will be tomorrow night

Quote: Originally Posted by Metsfan31

Any offline link?

Not yet, I will do one for V2

Quote: Originally Posted by parky_17

Brandon Morrow and Macier Izturis where healthy on opening day but aren't on the 40 man for this roster because they're on the 60 day DL now, so that contradicts itsfelf

These were done as current rosters, being a Jays fan I really went over their roster with a fine toothed comb - Totte will probably fix those in the OD release

Quote: Originally Posted by msmith05

They are based on OSFM BUT......they do the updated transactions....when they mean based on osfm they mean all the minor leaguers Knight and his team build

We had to do an updated version because of how many players we added and it was just easier to manage the roster as we went along - I didn't want to spend another day or 2 updating transactions on a roster

[romeosdistress]

they arent dropping tonight. let be realistic and hope for tomorrow.

[Willard76]

Quote: Originally Posted by cultbuscus

We were just discussing the assortment. We will do all minor leaguers and only a handful of top-flight free agents we think will likely be signed. If we do not do a free-agent you want, you can always go to Seanjeezy's Google Spreadsheet, and input them yourself once you get your hands on the roster I would like to think that a release tonight is possible. If it isn't, then it will definitely be out tomorrow. Edit: For overalls, it did some interesting things. On the teams that I did, the most notable changes off the top of my head were Doug Fister and Stephen Strasburg. I don't remember Fister's original ratings (maybe someone can check for me) but he has a wicked curveball and change up, and it shot him up to being a 90 overall. Strasburg, who was a 91, went down to an 88, which was weird, but I think is very much attributed to how bad his slider is rated.

I found the slider seems to really have weight on everything pitching

Quote: Originally Posted by giantsteps

I beg the baseball gods that the V2 drops before 10EST

Put up some Canadian flags and maybe I will get it there.....lol

I will do my best - my COD friends are bugging to get me back into the clan

[Padgoi]

Quote: Originally Posted by davis25

One guy for example that has major differences on hybrids compared to osfm v2 is Puig. In hybrids he hits about .270 with 25-28 hr on avg, on v2 hes more like .300+ and 35-40 hr! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In that scenario, the hybrid seems more accurate. Yes, Puig is probably going to hit upwards of .320, but no way he's gonna hit 40 homers. 25-30 sounds much more accurate for that.

[jmurphy]

Another thing I just noticed, was playing against the A's and Josh Reddick looks a little too good. Fielding and speed are fine but I think he needs a drop in contact or power or both.

[authentic]

Derek Hankins - needs to be taken off the roster.

He is with the Tigers on OSFM and in AAA. He is currently playing in Korea. He's a F potential so it shouldn't be too difficult to sub him out.