MLB 14 The Show - Top 9 Players at Each Position

[Iceman87GT]

Kinda surprised that Manny Machado wasn't in the top 9 for 3rd Base. I know he's only been in the league for 1 full year, but his defense is off the charts and he's a better hitter than Simmons (both are insane defensively and if Machado makes the move to his natural position of SS those 2 will be duking it out for best Short Stop in the league for years to come).

I'm guessing his ratings are taking a hit due to the injury he is coming off of, and that will be adjusted once he comes back and proves he has healed up from it.

Or is he sitting at an 83 or an 84 and just below Pablo so we can't see him? I mean that seems like a fair rating for a guy with only 1 full year under his belt but seeing how Andrelton Simmons is an 86 despite having only a few more weeks of MLB experience compared to Machado, you would think he would see a similar rating.

[sk]

Quote: Originally Posted by Iceman87GT

Kinda surprised that Manny Machado wasn't in the top 9 for 3rd Base. I know he's only been in the league for 1 full year, but his defense is off the charts and he's a better hitter than Simmons (both are insane defensively and if Machado makes the move to his natural position of SS those 2 will be duking it out for best Short Stop in the league for years to come). I'm guessing his ratings are taking a hit due to the injury he is coming off of, and that will be adjusted once he comes back and proves he has healed up from it. Or is he sitting at an 83 or an 84 and just below Pablo so we can't see him? I mean that seems like a fair rating for a guy with only 1 full year under his belt but seeing how Andrelton Simmons is an 86 despite having only a few more weeks of MLB experience compared to Machado, you would think he would see a similar rating.

IMO as long as Hanley is healthy he's the best SS with Tulo right behind him.

[SirSpencAlot36]

i have to say none of these ratings really make sense or portray how good some players really are

[SirSpencAlot36]

Quote: Originally Posted by Iceman87GT

Kinda surprised that Manny Machado wasn't in the top 9 for 3rd Base. I know he's only been in the league for 1 full year, but his defense is off the charts and he's a better hitter than Simmons (both are insane defensively and if Machado makes the move to his natural position of SS those 2 will be duking it out for best Short Stop in the league for years to come). I'm guessing his ratings are taking a hit due to the injury he is coming off of, and that will be adjusted once he comes back and proves he has healed up from it. Or is he sitting at an 83 or an 84 and just below Pablo so we can't see him? I mean that seems like a fair rating for a guy with only 1 full year under his belt but seeing how Andrelton Simmons is an 86 despite having only a few more weeks of MLB experience compared to Machado, you would think he would see a similar rating.

im also surprised Josh Donaldson isn't somewhere near there as well

[MrOldboy]

It could be that The Show values offense more in the overal rating calculation for 3B and that Donaldson and Machado have lower offensive ratings than the other players. No saying they should, but each position in The Show uses different ratings in calculating the overall rating for players.

[decga]

I see they have Heyward as the Braves CF OVR 84! Ok this guy was rated 93-94 in 13'. I don't agree with that. I just will have to edit him to me liking. His defensive attributes should be in the 90's. Last year 93-94 OVR was too high, but 84 is too low. IMO

[seanjeezy]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrOldboy

It could be that The Show values offense more in the overal rating calculation for 3B and that Donaldson and Machado have lower offensive ratings than the other players. No saying they should, but each position in The Show uses different ratings in calculating the overall rating for players.

For Machado it's power, for Donaldson it's probably his first two years since they do account for 33% of his ratings.

This is how the game values ratings for third basemen:

Power>Hitting>Fielding>Arm Strength>Speed

[KMRblue1027]

It's really weighted that way? That's some really flawed logic to have different forms of production weighted differently depending on a position. Having positional adjustments for defense is alright but power somehow being worth "more" to a 3rd baseman than to any other position just seems illogical.

Really the overalls should be calculated by some baseline, say 75 OVR for a full time starter as worth 0 runs plus or minus, aka a 2 WAR player. Than every maybe every point of OVR in either direction could be 2 runs so every five points = one more projected WAR. A 100 OVR would be a 7 projected WAR player, aka Trout/Kershaw. Replacement level would be at 65 OVR. The vast majority of MLB players would be between 70-82ish OVR, with maybe 15 or so 90+ players.

This would hopefully also solve the problem of The Show massively overrating 1st baseman.