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Old 03-11-2014, 09:45 PM   #257
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The thing is until you can import players into a franchise already started the save carry-over isn't as big of a feature as you are implying, at least on here. A lot of the more diehard The Show fans use OSFM and like to have updated base rosters as well each year. I am a person who will likely never use the save import feature because I need to have the most updated rosters as soon as I can get them. That's one reason to start a new franchise each year.

Online franchise will have plenty of appeal to a lot of people because

A) it has logic updates that are a BIG deal to many if they are considered improvements by the community (they could be terrible, its possible)
B) Is the only way to play franchise with other players

The mode might get irrelevant to those who like to carry long-term franchises, but don't expect a mass exodus.
Well, your method using new/updated roster every year is more 'season mode' then franchise, the purpose of a franchise is to go multiple years, carrying historical data. In reference to your points

A) We will really have to wait and see on this.
B) Perhaps, although what is the point if you can only go a one or two seasons and the next year you have to start all over again.

My point is if you are going to introduce carry over as feature, you have to enable it for the most basic online franchise to make sense. I can see how you can find carry-over irrelevant if you play in such a fashion.
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:52 PM   #258
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Well, your method using new/updated roster every year is more 'season mode' then franchise, the purpose of a franchise is to go multiple years, carrying historical data. In reference to your points

A) We will really have to wait and see on this.
B) Perhaps, although what is the point if you can only go a one or two seasons and the next year you have to start all over again.

My point is if you are going to introduce carry over as feature, you have to enable it for the most basic online franchise to make sense. I can see how you can find carry-over irrelevant if you play in such a fashion.

No...he means being able to import new players into an EXISTING franchise.....not starting over with new rosters each year.

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Old 03-11-2014, 10:22 PM   #259
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No...he means being able to import new players into an EXISTING franchise.....not starting over with new rosters each year.

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ok.., so how many players are we talking here?..., I mean how many players would you be adding this year 2014 for instance if we had carry-over, what Tanaka, who else? Couldn't you just edit some nobodies or create them yourself, adjust ratings? If you don't have carry-over for 'online franchise' it seems like a much bigger deal, no? Am I way off here..., I don't understand why my question gets the response as if I am asking about adding sunflower seeds to the dugout.
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Old 03-11-2014, 10:34 PM   #260
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Well, your method using new/updated roster every year is more 'season mode' then franchise, the purpose of a franchise is to go multiple years, carrying historical data. In reference to your points

A) We will really have to wait and see on this.
B) Perhaps, although what is the point if you can only go a one or two seasons and the next year you have to start all over again.

My point is if you are going to introduce carry over as feature, you have to enable it for the most basic online franchise to make sense. I can see how you can find carry-over irrelevant if you play in such a fashion.
Not everyone plays franchise the way you do. You might make it one or two seasons in, but I and others make it much further. And each year we rely on updated rosters to make the mode worthwhile. Carry over saves are a nice feature, but in no way is it mandatory for everyone to care about them. Your perception of how people play franchise is incorrect. Some play that way, but not everyone.

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ok.., so how many players are we talking here?..., I mean how many players would you be adding this year 2014 for instance if we had carry-over, what Tanaka, who else? Couldn't you just edit some nobodies or create them yourself, adjust ratings? If you don't have carry-over for 'online franchise' it seems like a much bigger deal, no? Am I way off here..., I don't understand why my question gets the response as if I am asking about adding sunflower seeds to the dugout.
Technically...yes you could, but not a lot of guys are either willing to or "good enough" at editing to do this proficiently or to their satisfaction.
Being able to get players from the Vaults and import them into an existing franchise is the true way to maximize the year to year save IMO.

Also....until this year with the ability to edit the potential rating....matching up players from year to year with straight editing would have been impossible.

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Technically...yes you could, but not a lot of guys are either willing to or "good enough" at editing to do this proficiently or to their satisfaction.
Being able to get players from the Vaults and import them into an existing franchise is the true way to maximize the year to year save IMO.

Also....until this year with the ability to edit the potential rating....matching up players from year to year with straight editing would have been impossible.

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hmm... ok, I guess I am a minority then in thinking you set a franchise up and go with it for the duration and having a carry-over save keeps it going through the future real years, players progress over time and their ratings change etc... from time to time you add an imported player, and eventually players retire and before you know it you have a league of completely fictional players.
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hmm... ok, I guess I am a minority then in thinking you set a franchise up and go with it for the duration and having a carry-over save keeps it going through the future real years, players progress over time and their ratings change etc... from time to time you add an imported player, and eventually players retire and before you know it you have a league of completely fictional players.
I wouldn't say the minority.
I let my players progress as they do in game w/o edits once I edit them to start.
That is no difference from what you do with fictional players entering via the draft.
I take those fictional players and simply make them into real prospects and then let the chips fall where they may.
But some guys need a little help in that department....and that's where taking the player someone else created and having the ability to bring him into your franchise would help.
In my line of thinking....it's simply being able to import a draft class(which would be great as well)

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I wouldn't say the minority.
I let my players progress as they do in game w/o edits once I edit them to start.
That is no difference from what you do with fictional players entering via the draft.
I take those fictional players and simply make them into real prospects and then let the chips fall where they may.
But some guys need a little help in that department....and that's where taking the player someone else created and having the ability to bring him into your franchise would help.
In my line of thinking....it's simply being able to import a draft class(which would be great as well)

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Yea, for sure your all minor rosters are highly useful for any franchise setup, and an import of a draft class would be great for online or offline, couldn't agree more.
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