NBA 2K14: Can Defense Win You A Championship?

[z.arthur23]

Quote: Originally Posted by butchmcdoo

Awesome job with this. Fascinating read. Any chance you can do a similar thing with offensive players, just for comparison's sake?

Thank you! I actually want to do one with strictly 3-point shooters and see how a sharp-shooting team ends up.

[z.arthur23]

Quote: Originally Posted by mars5541

This is cool. You could've added more diverse players who are still defensive minded. Like Batum, Hibbert, Rondo, etc. For the players you picked I was impressed with the record. I wish ppg allowed was lower than 99 though. Hell I'm going to try this lol

I was bummed about the 99 point per game, too. I tried everything in my power to get Batum because he's somehow only a 78 I believe, but just couldn't make it happen! I would have liked to see the difference if I had, though.

[miller31time]

I'm sorry but this is one of the dumbest articles I've read on this forum.

It would be like putting together a team full of 3pt specialists (all under 80 overall), then when they didn't win a championship concluding that championship teams should have no good shooters.

Championship teams are generally elite on both offense and defense. The fact that a team like the one assembled in this "experiment" won more than 25 games is probably more damning of the simulation engine than anything.

[The 24th Letter]

Quote: Originally Posted by miller31time

I'm sorry but this is one of the dumbest articles I've read on this forum. It would be like putting together a team full of 3pt specialists (all under 80 overall), then when they didn't win a championship concluding that championship teams should have no good shooters. Championship teams are generally elite on both offense and defense. The fact that a team like the one assembled in this "experiment" won more than 25 games is probably more damning of the simulation engine than anything.

I figured a "I disagree for the sake of disagreeing" post was coming...but I don't even understand the point you are making....your 3pt shooters analogy isn't even close to goal of the experiment..

[doctorhay53]

I wonder about the effect on team chemistry of throwing a bunch of guys together and then simulating the season. Do you think this affected the results at all?

edit: also, 39-43 in the east and only the 8th seed? "Is this a fake video?"

[miller31time]

Quote: Originally Posted by The 24th Letter

I figured a "I disagree for the sake of disagreeing" post was coming...but I don't even understand the point you are making....your 3pt shooters analogy isn't even close to goal of the experiment..

First of all, I apologize for coming across as an ***. I'm not normally like that.

Secondly, my point is that putting together of team of under 80s and expecting them to do anything significant, then when they inevitably fail conclude that the opposite of their "strength" is the key to winning is a false premise in my opinion.

If you built a team of all offense, no defense under 80s, you'd find them to be equally as bad, if not worse. And your conclusion, if following the same path, would be that offense doesn't win championships.

Neither is correct as an elite balance of both generally is the path to success (in my opinion).

[david20lampton]

I loved this idea. With a sports game it can become repetitive to play and try to achieve the same goals over and over again. This was a great test. I am going to try and make one defensive minded team and also make one offensive minded team and put them in the same season to see how each one ends up. Keep up the good work.

[AntiBandwagoner]

Great write up. Nice to see 2k's sim system working pretty well.