NBA 2K14 VC Shows Its Ugly Side

[seanbarkley]

Quote: Originally Posted by NUH_UHHHHHHHHHHH

lol wow u really feel like you have to pay more? thats not the feeling im getting at all. ive been playing my career for probably 2 weeks max, around 2hrs a night. ive got about 80 overall and find myself having a blast in my park. and you say theyre stripping down the game? wow 2k been giving the best basketball since 2k7 in my opinion, and with the new eco-motion on next gen is amazing. go play live bro ull get all the headbands for free

1 - my 1st post was dealing with microtransactions. Yes, I feel I have to pay more if I want more cars in Forza or GT6 because I have to pay them, with real money, you get it? and dealing with NBA 2K, if you had spent a minute with my GM you would have known that you reach moments when you have to buy facilities, convincing players not to get angry... if you don't the VC you have to buy it and if you don't do it, you get pinished.

2 - dealing with stripped down videogames yes, I think they do. Chapters that previously would have been released with the game are now sold through DLCs, custom packs, weapon packs...and talking specifically about 2K14, knowing that you are their biggest fan on the planet and we are here just trolling, do you remember when All-Stars were included in the game and one given year they decided to sell it as a DLC? Do you remember when your myplayer accessories, shoes and tattoo were free and you could choose all all them from the beginning? because I do. And that, for me, is strip down a videogame to sell it in pieces.

3 - and dealing with your last sentence, I won't give you the pleasure to answer you what you deserve and the oportunity to keep with it. You said it loud and clear, you are their biggest grupie, we are just trolls. Keep enjoying you game.

[drewst18]

I may be in minority. I don't mind the way EA has implemented it through Ultimate Team modes and that is it. I don't mind dropping $10 to help my HUT team. But I will not spend one penny on this BS that has over run my game. I really only play "play now" cause of this crap, can't do anything.

[canucksss]

For me personally, IF VC IS STILL THE WAY TO IMPROVE MYGM and MYCAREER modes....I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE MY MONEY.....I'll STAY OFF BUYING 2K or any other companies that will ask me to pay MORE to use the modes.

What happen to "earning _______ by hardwork"? I spell GREED in 2K plus the value of honest good work is going to the drain with most players. WANT TO BE THE "BEST" without sweating or hardwork. In reality, Lebron or any other athletes spend money to hire trainer/s to improve their skills, BUT they still work on it. Plus VC fthat you earn from the game is not even make sense against the expensive clothings. Let see, you earn 1000 VC points, but you need to have at least 5000 VC points to buy a shoe!!!!??? HECK, an NBA player, even if he's per-play player, could easily buy a pair or even 2 shoes with that 1 day paycheck.

[NUH_UHHHHHHHHHHH]

Quote: Originally Posted by seanbarkley

1 - my 1st post was dealing with microtransactions. Yes, I feel I have to pay more if I want more cars in Forza or GT6 because I have to pay them, with real money, you get it? and dealing with NBA 2K, if you had spent a minute with my GM you would have known that you reach moments when you have to buy facilities, convincing players not to get angry... if you don't the VC you have to buy it and if you don't do it, you get pinished. 2 - dealing with stripped down videogames yes, I think they do. Chapters that previously would have been released with the game are now sold through DLCs, custom packs, weapon packs...and talking specifically about 2K14, knowing that you are their biggest fan on the planet and we are here just trolling, do you remember when All-Stars were included in the game and one given year they decided to sell it as a DLC? Do you remember when your myplayer accessories, shoes and tattoo were free and you could choose all all them from the beginning? because I do. And that, for me, is strip down a videogame to sell it in pieces. 3 - and dealing with your last sentence, I won't give you the pleasure to answer you what you deserve and the oportunity to keep with it. You said it loud and clear, you are their biggest grupie, we are just trolls. Keep enjoying you game.

1. ive never played forza, i havent played my gm, ive solely been playing quick matches online and myplayer. so i cant comment on my gm issues (nor have I)
2. all star pack was free with pre order dude. from what i can recall in 2k11 association mode, they didnt just give u jordans from the begining, ud have to unlock it by playing more n more. yes they were free but not from the beginning. actually i can recall 2k11 association mode it was harder to get jordan 4's in that game than in this game.
3. i do enjoy the game

[spacedog]

After having gone without a 2k game for maybe 7+ years (the early 2k games on dreamcast and xbox were awesome for me), I was thinking that this could be the year to jump back in. But this whole VC applying to every mode with a terribly unbalanced ratio between the VC earned and the cost of VC to unlock things has basically kept me from buying it. I'm only one customer but I could see this being the case with many customers moving forward. This VC is already frustrating lots of the hardcore 2k gamers, and is turning away potential new customers like myself, and I don't think that's a business model primed for success.

I hear lots of people defending it saying they play for weeks to have their players progress at a reasonable rate, and that's fine. If you play one mode. But what about the rest of the players who play multiple modes, and are forced to use VC from the same pool across each mode. It was nice when you could just play modes, and earn things as you worked, as a normal progression system would work. And I have no problems with micro transactions when they add extra content and variety. But a lot of the people ok with this particular 2k model seem to ignore that it isn't that buying VC is a problem, it's that you're essentially so constrained in every mode but quick play without doing so because you don't earn enough VC by actually playing the game. And it's apparent that 2k is not interested in giving people a boost or added content with micro transactions, but they want to scheme things in a way that you have to pay extra to really enjoy the game you already payed full price for.

Ok my rant is over, I know I've said lots of what most others already have said lol

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by seanbarkley

2 - dealing with stripped down videogames yes, I think they do. Chapters that previously would have been released with the game are now sold through DLCs, custom packs, weapon packs...and talking specifically about 2K14, knowing that you are their biggest fan on the planet and we are here just trolling, do you remember when All-Stars were included in the game and one given year they decided to sell it as a DLC? Do you remember when your myplayer accessories, shoes and tattoo were free and you could choose all all them from the beginning? because I do. And that, for me, is strip down a videogame to sell it in pieces.

You know, I'm actually okay with microtransactions implemented well.

I'm even okay with DLCs-- because it's somewhat easy to evaluate whether or not the base game provides enough content and value for your money and whether you're willing to pay a little more as a content completist.

I am NOT okay with a game where the full game can't be enjoyed because progress is made artificially difficult and unsatisfying to encourage you to spend another 20-40 dollars. I'm not okay with a design that encourages players to spend money to bypass actual play time and the effort-reward mechanic completely, and I'm not okay with microtransations that purposefully fuel game imbalances between the rich and lazy and those who just want to play the game they purchased.

[poloelite]

I tried to read all of the comments, but wanted to chime in real quick. I'm 50/50 on VC. I actually think it's a good idea and is very much needed. However, I do think some things are overpriced and some things you don't get enough VC for. The game hasn't even been out a month yet, so I don't think anyone that has been playing should be complaining about the amount of VC they have without buying it. I think the design of it was to have things that will keep you playing 2K until next year when the new game drops. I'm willing to bet, with consistent playing, that by summer everyone will have enough VC to do what they want. Between locker codes, the app and playing the actual game, you can accumulate a lot of VC over that span of time.

If people here are the sim heads they say they are, playing an 82 game myGM will get you about 75,000 VC for playing the games alone. Add on the approximate 7,000 VC a week you can get from the app and locker codes, that is enough to be well on your way in myGM. No, you won't have every upgrade, but in the essence of being true and sim, no GM has every upgrade.

You can literally click the app now and get enough VC to buy a headband and next week have enough VC to buy kicks for the Park, without playing one game. I do agree that the myCareer salary is low and the VC earned per game could be more, but I think the design is for you to not be an 80, MVP, Rookie of the Year, league leading scorer in year 1. If you take the sim route and play 3 or 4 years into your career, you will probably have earned enough VC through all the channels to be an 80-90 OVR player, right when the average NBA star blossoms.

So all of these cats yelling sim, I think VC actually forces you to build sim like. For the casual gamer who can't grind it out and doesn't have the time, buy the VC. For this sim head, what's realer than starting off at the bottom and building your way up? Making it where you can't own everything and you have to make choices. So you can't be a slam dunking, ball handling, knock down shooting, lock down defending guy from day one, you actually have to earn that and build one elite trait at a time. Like I said, if you play regularly, but February or March you would've built your way to something respectable. But guys want to be dominating the league in year 1, weeks after the game dropped, how sim is that?? If you want that experience, the VC is there for you to cop.

Lastly, I do think the packs in myTeam are overpriced. However, from what I've heard, most teams are filled with Bronze players at this stage so the playing field is even. Just my thoughts, no diss to anyone or their opinions.

[252Life]

Don't buy the game, point blank period. The greed for money is killing sports gaming and the only way to send is message is to lessen the revenue made from game sales.