NBA 2K14 VC Shows Its Ugly Side

[RangersCruz]

Quote: Originally Posted by nuckles2k2

I'm not a fan of VC at all, but unfortunately I don't have time to play games like I once did. So I was starting a MyCareer (the day after I got my PS4...11/16) and I decided to spend $5 to get some VC so I can have a SF with a speed and vertical above a 69 & 45 (silly, and obviously low-balled numbers to promote VC purchase) Right after the money was taken from the wallet on the PSN, I got a "transaction failed: unknown error" message. Then it said "resolving a prior failed transaction" and after that it said "An error occurred with your VC purchase. This will be resolved at the next available opportunity." I thought 'alright then..' Waited 2 days, and that "next available opportunity" never arrived. So I started a support ticket on 2K's support site: We're 5 days away from a month with this issue, and nothing. 2K needs to take a look at the way they do things from top to bottom. It's one thing to tell me that I'm gonna need to buy VC to play a mode with a dude who can..****n and jump...from the very beginning. But when I cave in and say "alright, I'll get some VC" and then they take, and presumably receive my money, but I don't receive what I paid for, AND THEN THEY HAVE ME WAITING DAMN NEAR A MONTH FOR RESOLUTION. ..... I don't even know... And forget calling them. Over that course of time, I called 4 times. The average wait while I had to listing to that infuriating music, and the recorded "we appreciate your patience, please stay on the line and our next available agent will be right with you"...the average wait was somewhere around 20 mins. The last time I called, I literally waited 35 mins to have a dude tell me that "my complaint was in the queue, and I'll get an email when they resolve it." So I got slapped in the face in the game when I created my All-Around SF who apparently can't run, can't jump, is slow as molasses, and has no stamina; and when I spend $5 to correct this situation, they take my money then say "holup, we'll be right with ya...when we damn well please...so yea....wait.." That's enough to wanna make you elbow someone in the eye. So there's more than one ugly side to this VC fiasco. But no matter how you slice it, chances are needed.

My Tickets been in there for 20 days and a lot more people had of me im doubting it will ever even be resolved

[eslimm]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

With respect, I have always found these suppositions to be much too broad while potentially letting gaming companies off the hook. I would wonder how much DLC and microtransactions some would be willing to explain away simply as, "Well games are getting more expensive so it makes sense." My question would be, is Virtual Currency about 2K's survival and solvency? Or is it simply another money stream for a team who'd already properly budgeted before VC even came into the picture? Further, I am unquestionably biased toward NBA legends' inclusion in the NBA 2K series. As a fan of the NBA (and of real life NBA replication and simulation) I have found classic teams to be one of the biggest breakthroughs in 2K series history. They're real teams and real players with real history. I feel they fit right in with what an NBA simulation should be all about. Still, regarding the pay of legends, we don't really have a base upon which to stand. We don't really know how much players are being paid and what effect that monetary total has on the entire 2K brand. Is it a sizable dent in the budget? Or is it merely a blip? Moreover, I feel there's many other aspects of 2K that'd be ripe for reduction before the inclusion of real life NBA basketball teams. To name two off hand: Euroleague teams and 2K's star-studded soundtrack. I feel as though times couldn't have been too hard if 2K was able to secure Jay-Z and all of his cohorts before VC was ever even introduced. I'd also venture to say 2K's sudden need and urge to sign mega-hit soundtrack stars as opposed to the underground angle they supported for their entire existence up until 2K12 would again suggest 2K's not necessarily fighting for survival and draping their entire product in Virtual Currency only so they may survive.

I understand where you are coming from don't get me wrong I love the implementation of legends, I'm afraid I haven't played with them in Nba 2k14 yet simply because not all rosters are accurately represented. But there are things are give in take 2k is a business and we as consumers want things in the game such as legends. Those people cost maybe some agreed to be in for free but those players cost money. I remember Pippen didn't want to be in the game unless the money was right and they made that happen or Sir Charles, I forgot which one. But with that being said as much as I hate VC, this is what's paying for the soundtracks, the Jay Z, the legends etc. I'm sure they meet and exceed expectations of VC purchases so yes they probably pocket that money too but I do understand where you are coming from

(Galaxy S4)

[nuckles2k2]

Quote: Originally Posted by RangersCruz

My Tickets been in there for 20 days and a lot more people had of me im doubting it will ever even be resolved

Welcome to the club.

They can't embed VC as a necessity, then not have the tools or staff in place to take care of any potential problems with it, in a timely fashion.

[VDusen04]

Quote: Originally Posted by RangersCruz

People can take it up on the forums but in reality a lot thousands of people out there that just play the game or watch youtube guys like QJB , Smoove ect will buy VC and not care it's not going anywhere

It will start in the forums and it will carry over to the marketplace, where consumers will begin passing over on NBA 2K. I'm a 2K lifer, bought every 2K on release day since 2K2. I passed on their product this year. I know I'm not alone. From the looks of it, those opting not to purchase 2K in the future will grow exponentially if the current system remains in place.

Believe it or not, there was a time not too long ago where the general consensus was that former basketball powerhouse NBA Live would never be able to be supplanted as king of the virtual hardwood. No one is invincible here.

Quote: Originally Posted by RangersCruz

I really don't understand why people want to buy clothes and other useless stuff then complain about the prices

Because... it's a part... of... the game. People aren't purchasing real pieces of clothing here. There's aspects to the game (the game for which they've already paid) they wish to access. And simply playing the game will not allow for an acceptable form of accessibility in many gamer's opinions.

[eslimm]

Quote: Originally Posted by RangersCruz

You won't be able to do anything with that 200 VC either way

I think you're missing the point. I rather not spend money on visual upgrades if I'm going to spend VC it will be to upgrade my abilities not my looks

(Galaxy S4)

[RangersCruz]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

It will start in the forums and it will carry over to the marketplace, where consumers will begin passing over on NBA 2K. I'm a 2K lifer, bought every 2K on release day since 2K2. I passed on their product this year. I know I'm not alone. From the looks of it, those opting not to purchase 2K in the future will grow exponentially if the current system remains in place. Believe it or not, there was a time not too long ago where the general consensus was that former basketball powerhouse NBA Live would never be able to be supplanted as king of the virtual hardwood. No one is invincible here. Because... it's a part... of... the game. People aren't purchasing real pieces of clothing here. There's aspects to the game (the game for which they've already paid) they wish to access. And simply playing the game will not allow for an acceptable form of accessibility in many gamer's opinions.

is anybody forcing gamers to buy clothes? no

[willh313]

Ok...this is a valid argument but honestly most of the stuff you do in franchise is purchasable after a few exhibition games(even if you lose on HOF you get 400-500 VC per game)...without spending a single dime of real money...has the micro-transaction thing gone too far...in a word, yes; but by no means does this game REQUIRE you too spend that extra cash(you spending the extra dough or wanting to is matter of your own impatience)...I have not spent any extra money on the game and get everything I want out of it...They only put $h!t like this in the game because a lot of gamers now a days whine about wanting more sooner and if you want that then there's the option. Same thing for Battlefield and it's instant upgrade kits and damn near every other game that is made by people willing to compensate whiners...It used to be that you could buy a game play it and be happy with what you got in the box until something else came along...then people started saying theres not enough levels...we need new this...I beat it so fast that...so now companies bleed you for stuff like this because a lot of you guys are spoiled and can't play game for more than a month without getting tired of it....I'm sorry to be the one who said this but...the main reason the whole dlc thing in general is getting out of hand is BECAUSE of gamers...remember when we used to get Expansions....things that could have almost been whole games of their own....WE RUINED that....The vast number of us who can't WAIT or have to run through a game in one weekend instead of taking the time get everything out of the games we have....I know this wont be popular but I felt it needed to be said....I mean guys you don't even notice that we don't even have cheat codes in the game anymore....developers are probably like ..."why make secrets when they are just going to run through the game and not try everything it has to offer anyway"....again i understand the anger here but you guys gotta realize this kind of stuff is our fault...when what you paid for stopped being enough this is what happened

[RangersCruz]

Quote: Originally Posted by eslimm

I think you're missing the point. I rather not spend money on visual upgrades if I'm going to spend VC it will be to upgrade my abilities not my looks (Galaxy S4)

Well then save it and upgrade it nobody is forcing you guys to buy clothes , gear , tattoos or shoes