If NBA Live Has a Future, It Has to Look Radically Different

[WTF]

Yep, and I stated, when I.... I.... I see it, then I'm done. Look at the date on his video. There have been 2 bug fixes since. If you all don't want to play it, that's fine. I've never in my life seen people so predicated on trying to tell someone who enjoys something, that they shouldn't enjoy it.

For your guys' sake, I dislike the game. You all can rest easy.

[DonWuan]

Like I've mentioned before for every flaw that's in Live you can find the same in 2k.
Little more with Live because lack of animations.

Both games have issues.

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[shutdown10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

I'm confused. Didn't you say you only played five minutes then turned it off? I saw your videos of 2k. It's weird how you only post issues of that game and none for Live. Really. Passes warping through defenders in Live? Yep. Quite often. And not just through legs. Through chests. Pass catching animations that screw your team? Oh yeah. Sliding them out of bounds. Killing fast breaks to make them STOP. Not just slow down, but stop. Goal tend calls that are not made that should be. My point isn't to tear down Live. I'm saying that you're going out of your way to praise Live and out if your way to rip the other game and it's seems like a vendetta. It's really uneven. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

There really is no point to go back and forth with people who defend this effort from EA. Lets just wait to see what the developers will do with this game going forward if given the opportunity.

[Ace1259]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Yep, and I stated, when I.... I.... I see it, then I'm done. Look at the date on his video. There have been 2 bug fixes since. If you all don't want to play it, that's fine. I've never in my life seen people so predicated on trying to tell someone who enjoys something, that they shouldn't enjoy it. For your guys' sake, I dislike the game. You all can rest easy.

It's funny how you come on a sports forum where people hold debates and argue both sides of a topic but, then post comments like this. Lol stop being so sensitive.

[mike24forever]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Yep, and I stated, when I.... I.... I see it, then I'm done. Look at the date on his video. There have been 2 bug fixes since. If you all don't want to play it, that's fine. I've never in my life seen people so predicated on trying to tell someone who enjoys something, that they shouldn't enjoy it. For your guys' sake, I dislike the game. You all can rest easy.

I don't understand the need for people to try impose how they feel about a game on others. If I don't like a game, I may state my opinion and why, but to continually come into a thread a belittle those who do or question why they do, I will never understand. Especially, over and over again. The personal investment people have is comical. I enjoy Live, even with its faults. It's nice to have two basketball games to play.

[DBMcGee3]

Obviously there are people out there who are tired of 2k, and for them I guess Live is the only alternative. Having not played the game, I will reserve full judgement, but I can say that the gameplay footage I've seen looks absolutely horrific. The transitional animations are so robotic and awkward looking, and I'm just not seeing this whole "live ball" thing that they hyped so much. I played 2k14 on PS4 a week or so ago, and honestly I was disappointed in the lack of gameplay improvement over current gen, but in my opinion it still looks to be the better of the 2 games in every conceivable way.

[WTF]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ace1259

It's funny how you come on a sports forum where people hold debates and argue both sides of a topic but, then post comments like this. Lol stop being so sensitive.

If you don't want to add anything constructive to the discussion, you can find the exit.

I'm not sensitive at all. But if you would read, I said If "I", as in "me, myself, I" see this while I'm playing it, I'm done. And I would agree with the masses. And what a glorious day for you all it will be.

With that said, this is a CON in Live, I tried to start up, and play with the most recent rosters... and because PSN is down, you cannot. Again, both games have the problem. But I will acknowledge that yep, it's a problem.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Stop with the Children talk Boiler. First and only warning. Have I or anyone else argued that your opinion is like that of a child? Again, attacking other posters won't be tolerated.

I was saying the line of reasoning and how you were drawing conclusions from unrelated evidence was like a child would do it. It's not meant to call you children. It's to express how random and irrational it feels. Sorry if that offends, but that's how I see it.

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To discuss your points, I had a pass bounce off of my own teammates head in Live. Didn't warp through his head to get to the intended recipient. I have not once seen a pass warp through any portion of my teammate or a defender.

Come on man. I've seen one or more in almost every game I've played. And I've played at least 10 games.

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The worst clipping that I have seen, is a guys arm going through the rim on a swat attempt, or hand going through a player during the "contact" animations.

Kingpnp drive video shows ball and legs warping through defenders. How can you claim you don't see it?

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I've not once had a goaltending issue. I'll try to intentionally swat some balls that'll be goaltending my next go around to see if that's an issue.

Fair enough.

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If you'd re-read my posts, the last time I played was for 5 minutes, then turned it off. That particular play occurred a week or two back. Stop twisting others words in effort to support an argument.

Not twisting words. I just interpreted what you said wrong. I wasn't making an argument. I asked a question. You just clarified it.

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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...87708941500215 This gem of a play occurred during my last attempted play through. The game warps my defender out of play, makes him attempt a steal when I was just sticking with my guy. You can't tell me that is something you'd see in the NBA. That's the play that made me turn off the game.

I wouldn't BEGIN to claim the game is perfect. But, again, you make it a point to post this stuff about 2K, but none of any such posts on Live. THAT is my issue. And you can't tell me this does happen in Live.

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Again, if you don't like the game in it's present state, that's fine. It's not for you. The game HAS changed since release, and since you received early access to the game. The point I make is, I shared your sentiment upon the demo's release. It was a turd. If I had to go back and play it like it sat then, I would not play it for a quarter. The game HAS changed, for the better.

I actually wouldn't deny that it has improved. But has it improved to the point where you can ignore the major issues that it still has and will continue or have for a while? I would beg to differ.

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Is it perfect? Nope. And I continue to reiterate that it does have it's animation flaws. It's graphical oddities. But that's not what my statements are about.

You continue to qualify that statement by just stopping at animations and graphics. And anyone actually PLAYING the game knows it goes much further than visuals. But you guys keep painting this as people that don't like the game only care about visuals. And that's bs.

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The gameplay under the hood is good. If you don't see it, great.

I do see the good. But I don't ignore the bad. You seem to be doing that. Again, outside of visuals, you've yet to acknowledge the bad in gameplay that is STILL there and just as bad, if not worse, than what you'd see in 2k.

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There's another title out there for you. I'm not going to sit here and tell the EA devs to make a game that mirrors NBA 2k14, when that game has let me down more than any other 2k game yet to date.

Again, this feels like an emotional vendetta. By the way, if toe games have a goal to simulate basketball, then by nature, they have mirroring goals.

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I want EA to realize that if they would have made more fluid animations, and a "prettier" game, alongside with releasing a game that's ready to play with Synergy kicked in then it would not be getting beaten to death. Check out FLIGHT's opinion. We both thought the game sucked upon release. Different tune now.

Yet you slammed a guy for saying you should provide more constructive feedback. Well, are you or aren't you?

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But to come in and challenge our statements saying we sound like children, won't be tolerated. Keep it civil, no attacking mine or any other posters mindset.

I clarified what I meant here. If you think you should ban me, by all means.


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