If NBA Live Has a Future, It Has to Look Radically Different

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Yes, that's exactly what it is. I'm not the only one. Next Gen CPU Cheating is Amazing Plenty of these types of moments: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...30994490740309 Goaltending? Nope. Was it called? Yep. It was after I stopped 3-4 instances of cheese that they were "supposed" to score. But that's for another thread. I'll be uploading the video that I took of the ball morphing through my defenders momentarily as well.

I'm confused. Didn't you say you only played five minutes then turned it off? I saw your videos of 2k. It's weird how you only post issues of that game and none for Live. Really.

Passes warping through defenders in Live? Yep. Quite often. And not just through legs. Through chests.

Pass catching animations that screw your team? Oh yeah. Sliding them out of bounds. Killing fast breaks to make them STOP. Not just slow down, but stop.

Goal tend calls that are not made that should be.

My point isn't to tear down Live. I'm saying that you're going out of your way to praise Live and out if your way to rip the other game and it's seems like a vendetta. It's really uneven.


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[Earl1963]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...g-amazing.html Debunk this. The game was determined to score. It was a minute and a half left, I was up 3, it's this games way of staying close. End of Story.

That actually happens a lot in that game. But I ain't going to to deep into that since this tread is about Live.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

its been debunked even though he just posted proof? i saw another video on another thread showing the ball going through the same guy twice on the same play to let lebron score. so how is it debunked when there is video evidence? ive seen plenty of it too especially when the cpu ballhandler changes directions 5-6 times in a row in the paint until you eventually slide off him.

How in the world is that proof of comeback logic? You guys argue like children. Show me how this is proof that the AI just decides to BUG, and you get this as a result. The video is evidence of a collision issue. The same issues Live has, by the way!


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[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Like this: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...79011921365904

Nice. So much wrong with that video. No one with a brain will say the game is perfect. However, bringing this back on topic, are you really trying to say you don't get this in Live? If you are really going to say that, I'll go away. There would be no point in discussing anything further with people willing to lie.


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[WTF]

Stop with the Children talk Boiler. First and only warning. Have I or anyone else argued that your opinion is like that of a child? Again, attacking other posters won't be tolerated.

To discuss your points, I had a pass bounce off of my own teammates head in Live. Didn't warp through his head to get to the intended recipient. I have not once seen a pass warp through any portion of my teammate or a defender. The worst clipping that I have seen, is a guys arm going through the rim on a swat attempt, or hand going through a player during the "contact" animations.

I've not once had a goaltending issue. I'll try to intentionally swat some balls that'll be goaltending my next go around to see if that's an issue.

If you'd re-read my posts, the last time I played was for 5 minutes, then turned it off. That particular play occurred a week or two back. Stop twisting others words in effort to support an argument.

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This gem of a play occurred during my last attempted play through. The game warps my defender out of play, makes him attempt a steal when I was just sticking with my guy. You can't tell me that is something you'd see in the NBA. That's the play that made me turn off the game.

Again, if you don't like the game in it's present state, that's fine. It's not for you. The game HAS changed since release, and since you received early access to the game. The point I make is, I shared your sentiment upon the demo's release. It was a turd. If I had to go back and play it like it sat then, I would not play it for a quarter. The game HAS changed, for the better.

Is it perfect? Nope. And I continue to reiterate that it does have it's animation flaws. It's graphical oddities. But that's not what my statements are about. The gameplay under the hood is good. If you don't see it, great. There's another title out there for you. I'm not going to sit here and tell the EA devs to make a game that mirrors NBA 2k14, when that game has let me down more than any other 2k game yet to date.

I want EA to realize that if they would have made more fluid animations, and a "prettier" game, alongside with releasing a game that's ready to play with Synergy kicked in then it would not be getting beaten to death. Check out FLIGHT's opinion. We both thought the game sucked upon release. Different tune now.

But to come in and challenge our statements saying we sound like children, won't be tolerated. Keep it civil, no attacking mine or any other posters mindset.

[WTF]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

Nice. So much wrong with that video. No one with a brain will say the game is perfect. However, bringing this back on topic, are you really trying to say you don't get this in Live? If you are really going to say that, I'll go away. There would be no point in discussing anything further with people willing to lie. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Then you can go ahead and go away. Are you sitting with me during my playthrough of Live? If you aren't, then you probably shouldn't assume anything that I'm seeing.

If I was seeing the same thing in Live, I wouldn't be sitting here playing the game. I've seen the videos early on of the guy running in circles in the key. It was terrible. The point remains, I have not seen it. If I did, I'd be done just the same.

If it gets to the point where all games are using that type of junk to keep a game close, then it's time for me to quit gaming as a whole. I've not seen it in Live thus far. I see it every time I start up the other game.

If it happens, and the EA devs start sliding things like that in my game through updates, you'll hear me be just as vocal about it. I shall picket just like the rest of you.

[NoTiCe_O]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

Master Jedi, again, I don't feel the need to constantly post why I like or dislike a game. "Wow! The more I play it, the more I love it. It's just so deep! Blah blah blah!" Hey, did you forget who you're addressing? I'm the one that saw it at E3. I'm the one that got it before ship date. Four days before most of you Jedi here! So kill the sheep talk, dude. You don't know anything about how I form my opinions. Frankly, I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post. It is full of the same Jedi assertions that have no details or examples to back them up. Not to mention the laughable comparisons to Street Fighter and 2K. No, I won't accuse you of working for EA or any of that other stuff. Why? There are thousands of rabid fans out there willing to eat up anything their favorite game shovels in their face. I'll just say this; all I want to hear are the details. You guys keep repeating the same thing, waiting for the brainwashing to kick in. I want to hear details. See evidence. Not clunky highlight videos that could be ripped apart at a moments notice. So, I ask again - what are you seeing exactly that leads you to the conclusion I asked you about? It was just a question. Why so much resistance to actually answering it?

Sheep talk? Lol. Sheep follow the masses, in what situation do you see everybody praising Live. Honestly 2k has the sheep that will defend their game no matter what, if anyone's praising Live it's because they're brave enough to do so. Far from a sheep.

It's really nothing new that you decide not to respond to the part of my post that actually holds value so I don't mind. You said you want details, well I mentioned some and you just ignored it. I actually answered your question also, resistance free. Fact remains that skill runs the court in Live, not cheese or any exploitable animation. Another thing I've noticed is that if you don't have a solid grasp on basketball strategy then Live actually might be over your head.

Overall, just enjoy what you enjoy man, if someone has a different opinion so what, it's no reason to bash him. I just sincerely hope the Live team sticks to the formula they have and just piles everything they need on top of the foundation they've already set. (Plus an in depth tutorial/training school mode.)

All I'm saying.

[Ace1259]

Quote: Originally Posted by WTF

Then you can go ahead and go away. Are you sitting with me during my playthrough of Live? If you aren't, then you probably shouldn't assume anything that I'm seeing. If I was seeing the same thing in Live, I wouldn't be sitting here playing the game. I've seen the videos early on of the guy running in circles in the key. It was terrible. The point remains, I have not seen it. If I did, I'd be done just the same. If it gets to the point where all games are using that type of junk to keep a game close, then it's time for me to quit gaming as a whole. I've not seen it in Live thus far. I see it every time I start up the other game. If it happens, and the EA devs start sliding things like that in my game through updates, you'll hear me be just as vocal about it. I shall picket just like the rest of you.

Then get your picket signs ready.

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