If NBA Live Has a Future, It Has to Look Radically Different

[NUH_UHHHHHHHHHHH]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

fans dont prefer it because its not pretty and its not what theyre used to. the problem is that no one gives it a chance because of the graphics. the few people on here who have gone back to play it since 2k doesnt work have said its much better than they originally thought. i dont listen to reviews for sports games because they generally dont play them enough to really understand the game. that goes for any sports game not just this one. i watched igns reviewers play both live and 2k14 and they looked like monkeys playing both.

Poor graphics dont deter people from buying GTA5 and COD. Those two games basically had the same graphics last gen and still continue to dominate in sales. Those games have an addicitve gameplay that keep its gamers coming back over n over.

[cream6]

It's over. EA sucks and if it wasn't for FIFA and NHL they would be doomed. They had 3 years to bring out a decent game but failed to meet low expectations. Thank God I was in my right mind and stayed on current gen with all my 14 games because they are actually good and the console jump wasn't worth it for just graphics. I will probably keep my system for 3 more years. I basically bought my PS3 because of MLB The Show 10 but I'm still play 12 and don't think I will jump to next gen for the show at least not next year.

[Brian_OS]

the demo reminded me of Double Dribble.

[blackceasar]

Quote: Originally Posted by El_Poopador

fans dont prefer it because its not pretty and its not what theyre used to. the problem is that no one gives it a chance because of the graphics. the few people on here who have gone back to play it since 2k doesnt work have said its much better than they originally thought. i dont listen to reviews for sports games because they generally dont play them enough to really understand the game. that goes for any sports game not just this one. i watched igns reviewers play both live and 2k14 and they looked like monkeys playing both.

Dude you're comparing apples to oranges. GTA has great graphics.. they have a certain STYLE. It's called ART DIRECTION. GTA5 looks the way it does because that was the art direction for the game. Also, they can go down that route because games like GTA 5 are not trying to replicate something in the real world for authenticity sake.

Bringing up COD, just stop. The graphics arent BAD.. they just don't look any different on next gen than from current gen that much.. but its not like it looked AWFUL on current gen to begin with. So you really need to just stop on the COD thing.. this choice of game was a weak choice to make your point.

Now a SPORTS GAME. I mean one that falls in line with major sports where you are REPLICATING things from the real world.. (players, uniforms, animations, etc) then the quality of the game can factor in the graphics and animations. When you put an NBA or NFL logo on your game to sell it.. and one of the draws to people buying your game is because it's got the same players and teams, and etc etc from the real life counterpart, then you legitimately as a company open the door to be judged on just how close you ARE coming to the real thing. LIVE DOES NOT DO THIS, WHICH IS WHY 99% OF PUBS GAVE IT REALLY LOW SCORES.

To make my point even further.. Look at a game like Hot Shots golf. It's always got great reviews and the graphics don't look realisitc at all.. but they DONT HAVE TO because Hot Shots Golf wasn't slapping the PGA TOUR LOGO ON THE COVER WITH A PICTURE OF A REAL GOLFER.

Make sense or was that over your head?

[NoTiCe_O]

There are people that actually think the game is good; including the developers.

Live doesn't need to be simplified, rather, people need to stop being lazy and actually learn the game. You see reviewers reviewing the game and giving it terrible scores yet they can't even accomplish the basic dribbling moves, at least learn to play before you trash it.

In my opinion, what NBA Live is doing with the franchise right now is great for competitive gaming. The game is much more skill based than 2k and that alone sets it apart from the competition. The fact that you
actually have to "learn" how to play before becoming successful is great.

Look at the Street fighter crowd. These games are great competitively. Go up against someone who knows what they're doing and you’ll realize you’ve got a lot to learn. Just go on YouTube right now and watch a Street Fighter match where two top players are competing and you'll see what the game is supposed to look like. I've seen the same thing with Live, and If you tuned in on one of Scott O'Gallaghers streams then you should know exactly what I’m talking about.

There’s some free minded people out there that actually take an unbiased look at Live, learn it, and make their own observations (ala Bleacher Report), but for the most part Live was written off before it started for many people.

To me dumbing down the game isn’t necessary at all. I actually hope EA sticks to the script. Build off what they already have knowing there’s a full development cycle ahead of them and a Live game actually released now.

(Mind you, this is all speaking from a competitive gaming viewpoint, not the MyPlayer, or the Franchise guy.)

[JerseySuave4]

If you want to waste away your money buying an inferior game then NBA Live is for you. In no way is this game Next Gen. If they tried to pass it off as current gen even then it'd still be considered mediocre.

[The 24th Letter]

This game is no Street Fighter....

Trying to pass this game off as some ultra strategic sim that's a graphical upgrade away from being great is just...nonsense....for lack of a better word...

Live has a learning curve, yes...but the great thing about learning something is the payoff once it's accomplished...and i've yet to feel any any of that payoff...BounceTek is still not the experience it was advertised to be IMO..I don't feel the same way I felt when I mastered playing with Balrog...lol

Live has some redeeming qualities...but the best thing we can do is acknowledge those qualities and provide some honest feedback...let's stop the "Lives too deep for some people" stuff...

[WTF]

Brian OS has no affiliation with OS. And Phreak50, may want to calm it down a bit. Lol.

Regardless of the outcome, right now, some of us have had our decisions made for us. 24th's daughter broke his 2k disc, and 2k glitches and errors broke my experience. Once you learn the game, it does get better.

I am taking the opportunity that I have, and hopefully going to provide some much needed community feedback to the EA team on what needs to be done.

I'm sure some are thinking "shouldn't they already know what needs fixed? "

In my mind, an outside opinion being constructive in their criticism will go much further than that of those who have slaved away on the project for the past 12 months. I kind of correlate it to mindlessly working on a project for hours. You've spent so much time on it, your mind is relatively numb and don't see it for what it is. Sometimes an outside look can make a world of difference.

Who knows.