Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

[tril]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedSceptile

You know nothing about basketball or salary. The earliest the Pelicans can lose Davis is the 2019 season because best believe hes going to get that super max deal. This is his second year in the league and the Pelicans are already better this year than last. Roy Hibbert arguably plays for the best team in the league with a guy in Paul George who is rising astronomically into a top 5 player. There's no conceivable way to afford Melo Kobe Anthony Davis and Roy Hibbert. Kobe would have to sign for the minimum because that's 3 MAX LEVEL players. Combine the fact that the league is far more punishing to tax payers as a result of what happened in Miami. But oh wait the 3 in Miami all took even less money. Melo is not going to take less money. Neither will an in his prime Anthony Davis. Plus with the way how Hibbert is destroying souls you can count him out as well. This is impossible. Learn salary cap 101 and contracts before making such ludicrous assumptions. "Ohhhh a guys team sucks? Guess hes gonna be a Laker!" there are far more attractive teams than whatever it is that the Lakers are now.

So with that PHD in basketball economics you got from Mailin University must really work wonders for you in that new GM mode of NBA2k14!!!!

first off read a few posts back I said The Anthony Davis going to LA is wishful thinking. and you and other folks argument about you know nothing about Basketball and how salary cap works argument is WEAK at best. Especially when we are talking about hypothetical here.
No one can really predict what will happen in 2/3 years from now. I dont see any of you all proposing how the Lakers could Potentially look in the future. Again "you know nothing about basketball" is weak... and an argument of "well, I played basketball at the high school, college level doesnt fly neither". I know someone will say this, and again that will be another weak excuse.
Ive seen some folks here mention lineups with Kyrie Irving, Kobe, and Love, wouldn't those three cross the cap. I even think that is plausible.
again a lineup of Carmello, Kobe and Hibbert is not out of the realm of impossibility, especially 2/3 years down the line.
this is about fun intriguing scenarios Brah!!!!!!

[Melbournelad]

Quote: Originally Posted by tril

So with that PHD in basketball economics you got from Mailin University must really work wonders for you in that new GM mode of NBA2k14!!!! first off read a few posts back I said The Anthony Davis going to LA is wishful thinking. and you and other folks argument about you know nothing about Basketball and how salary cap works argument is WEAK at best. Especially when we are talking about hypothetical here. No one can really predict what will happen in 2/3 years from now. I dont see any of you all proposing how the Lakers could Potentially look in the future. Again "you know nothing about basketball" is weak... and an argument of "well, I played basketball at the high school, college level doesnt fly neither". I know someone will say this, and again that will be another weak excuse. Ive seen some folks here mention lineups with Kyrie Irving, Kobe, and Love, wouldn't those three cross the cap. I even think that is plausible. again a lineup of Carmello, Kobe and Hibbert is not out of the realm of impossibility, especially 2/3 years down the line. this is about fun intriguing scenarios Brah!!!!!!

Okay now you must be trolling. No, Davis is not "wishful thinking". Nor is Kyrie Irving who you had to mention for some reason. It is so unlikely to the point that it is nearly impossible. If you look back at any offseason of the last 10 years you will see that no team has EVER let a star RFA go. And why would they? Now if you want to plan ahead until 2019 and 2020 for Irving and Davis respectively, go ahead, but don't try and suggest that there is any scenario that allows them to leave their teams in 2015 and 2016.


"No one can predict what will happen in 2/3 years from now". Actually, yes you can to some extent if you have looked into past history of the NBA, the salary cap ad it's limitations and how teams are constructed pretty extensively and know what you're talking about. For example I'll give you two predictions that I'm very confident about. One, the Pelicans striked FA too early this year with Holiday and Evans contracts and as a result will have a ceiling of a 4th/5th seed AT BEST in the Anthony Davis era. They should have rebuilt another two years and attempted to land another allstar or two in 2015 FA while they still had numerous rookie contracts on the books (Davis, high 2014 pick, high 2015 pick). Second, the Wizards will strike it big in 2016 FA and add a allstar/superstar to a core of Wall, Beal and Porter, possibly Durant.

[tril]

Quote: Originally Posted by Melbournelad

Okay now you must be trolling. No, Davis is not "wishful thinking". Nor is Kyrie Irving who you had to mention for some reason. It is so unlikely to the point that it is nearly impossible. If you look back at any offseason of the last 10 years you will see that no team has EVER let a star RFA go. And why would they? Now if you want to plan ahead until 2019 and 2020 for Irving and Davis respectively, go ahead, but don't try and suggest that there is any scenario that allows them to leave their teams in 2015 and 2016. "No one can predict what will happen in 2/3 years from now". Actually, yes you can to some extent if you have looked into past history of the NBA, the salary cap ad it's limitations and how teams are constructed pretty extensively and know what you're talking about. For example I'll give you two predictions that I'm very confident about. One, the Pelicans striked FA too early this year with Holiday and Evans contracts and as a result will have a ceiling of a 4th/5th seed AT BEST in the Anthony Davis era. They should have rebuilt another two years and attempted to land another allstar or two in 2015 FA while they still had numerous rookie contracts on the books (Davis, high 2014 pick, high 2015 pick). Second, the Wizards will strike it big in 2016 FA and add a allstar/superstar to a core of Wall, Beal and Porter, possibly Durant.

dude do you know how to read. seriously do you have any comprehension skills.
just to define a few things for you.
Wishful thinking is the formation of beliefs and making decisions according to what might be pleasing to imagine instead of by appealing to evidence, rationality, or reality.
This means that I admit that this in most likelyhood will not happen.I mentioned Kyrie Irving because some folks in this thread mentioned scenarios with Kyrie Irving in an LA uniform.

finally I feel like pissing you off even more...
I predict that Wade Bosh and James will opt out, and join LA next year. plus theyll ask for a minimum of 5 million a year so they could go and sign a few solid big men. Carmello seeing this will want to join the party for roughly 2 million a year cause he knows his celebrity wife can make up the difference with her celebrity status in LA. as a matter of fact theyll do a Lakers House wives show
starring LA LA, and Gabrielle Union, cause she'll be engaged to Wade by then. Kobe's wife will be that stereotypical light skinned babe on this show. Lebrons' wife will be the glue that keeps everyone together, and Bosh's wife's role be the woman who question's if his husband is on the DL or not.

seriously re-read my last few posts. and what does trolling have to do with hypothetical scenarios?

[RedSceptile]

Quote: Originally Posted by tril

dude do you know how to read. seriously do you have any comprehension skills. just to define a few things for you. Wishful thinking is the formation of beliefs and making decisions according to what might be pleasing to imagine instead of by appealing to evidence, rationality, or reality. This means that I admit that this in most likelyhood will not happen.I mentioned Kyrie Irving because some folks in this thread mentioned scenarios with Kyrie Irving in an LA uniform. finally I feel like pissing you off even more... I predict that Wade Bosh and James will opt out, and join LA next year. plus theyll ask for a minimum of 5 million a year so they could go and sign a few solid big men. Carmello seeing this will want to join the party for roughly 2 million a year cause he knows his celebrity wife can make up the difference with her celebrity status in LA. as a matter of fact theyll do a Lakers House wives show starring LA LA, and Gabrielle Union, cause she'll be engaged to Wade by then. Kobe's wife will be that stereotypical light skinned babe on this show. Lebrons' wife will be the glue that keeps everyone together, and Bosh's wife's role be the woman who question's if his husband is on the DL or not. seriously re-read my last few posts. and what does trolling have to do with hypothetical scenarios?

Making stupid posts doesn't piss any of us off. All it does is show that you can't generate a strong enough argument which has been evident with your lack of understanding and "Lakers did it before!" mentality.

[Melbournelad]

Quote: Originally Posted by tril

dude do you know how to read. seriously do you have any comprehension skills. just to define a few things for you. Wishful thinking is the formation of beliefs and making decisions according to what might be pleasing to imagine instead of by appealing to evidence, rationality, or reality. This means that I admit that this in most likelyhood will not happen.I mentioned Kyrie Irving because some folks in this thread mentioned scenarios with Kyrie Irving in an LA uniform. finally I feel like pissing you off even more... I predict that Wade Bosh and James will opt out, and join LA next year. plus theyll ask for a minimum of 5 million a year so they could go and sign a few solid big men. Carmello seeing this will want to join the party for roughly 2 million a year cause he knows his celebrity wife can make up the difference with her celebrity status in LA. as a matter of fact theyll do a Lakers House wives show starring LA LA, and Gabrielle Union, cause she'll be engaged to Wade by then. Kobe's wife will be that stereotypical light skinned babe on this show. Lebrons' wife will be the glue that keeps everyone together, and Bosh's wife's role be the woman who question's if his husband is on the DL or not. seriously re-read my last few posts. and what does trolling have to do with hypothetical scenarios?

"Do you have any comprehension skills." There is something ironically amusing about you saying that.

Wishful thinking implies that there is at least some distinct, albeit small, chane at something occurring. Irving and Davis being let go as RFA's does NOT fit that criteria.

By the way, seems like you've been watching a bit too much "real housewives" bro...

[tril]

Quote: Originally Posted by RedSceptile

Making stupid posts doesn't piss any of us off. All it does is show that you can't generate a strong enough argument which has been evident with your lack of understanding and "Lakers did it before!" mentality.

read all my previous posts broh.. befor you throw your two cents in!!!.Lakers will have huge amounts of cap space in the next 2 years. I did the research. I posted the contracts that will be off the books. look at all my posts.
After someone mentioned the Anthony Davis scenarios and cap structure, I basically then stated that it was wishful thinking. I conceded to that argument. But me being a Laker fan it would still be a nice dream.
However, I do stick by a scenario with Hibbert, Bryant, and Carmello in an LA lineup in 2 years.
Again, Hypothetical, but all in the realm of possibility

[tril]

Quote: Originally Posted by Melbournelad

"Do you have any comprehension skills." There is something ironically amusing about you saying that. Wishful thinking implies that there is at least some distinct, albeit small, chane at something occurring. Irving and Davis being let go as RFA's does NOT fit that criteria. By the way, seems like you've been watching a bit too much "real housewives" bro...

LOL!!! I just watch the updates on TMZ and the talk shows!!!!!
Again I still say that Hibbert, Carmello and Bryant falls in the realms of possibility and if not Davis as a big man then Ill throw Greg Monroe as the Lakers next big man.
he's basically a 15/10 guy deosnt get much touches this year cause he shares those duties with Josh Smith..

so this off upcoming off season. LA Grabs Carmello and Monroe
and in 2015 Hibbert opts out for LA. in the mean time I still say LA should pursue Bledsoe.

in 2 years a lineup of
pg-?
sg-Bryant
sf-Carmello Anthony
pf-Monroe
c-Hibbert (he has a player option),

Im a huge fan of Hibberts game and LA lakers fan, so now you know why Id like to see him in an LA uniform. I used to get in heated arguments when he and Oden was coming out. at one point there was talk of Hibbert coming out the same year as Oden. Hibbert decided to stay in college 1 more year-I believe. I always thought that Hibbert had the most upside. I liked the way he played at Georgetown.

for the record that Oden Hibbert debate will never come to fruition. that Ohio State/Georgetown game was supposedly a prelude to what we'd see from these two big men in the NBA. Hibbert dominated that game back in I believe 07.

sorry for going off topic.

[RedSceptile]

Carmelo commands a max. Monroe is going to want a max or as close to it as possible, Hibbert will definitely demand a max. That's 3 max guys and Eric Bledsoe who if he doesn't get the max will get a Rondo/Conley type contract. That's not even factoring in Kobe and the bench unit. Again it doesn't add up.