NBA 2K14 Video - New York Knicks vs. Brooklyn Nets (PS4)

[mango_prom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Eman5805

I've seen Tyson do some very illogical things. He wasn't always the key defensive cog in a championship team. I've seen him take turnaround jumpers IRL, usually when the clock is running down, but whatever. Which raises another issue, is the ideal for the game of basketball simulation to be simulated towards perfection, or allowing weird nonsensical things to happen because sometimes people do nonsensical things in real life? Should the CPU be perfect or should it be made in such a way that it makes mistakes, takes bad shots, has poor rotation or whatever?

You're missing the point. I'm not talking about "perfection", but flaws in game logic and the animation system that have been there for years. What Chandler is doing in the vid isn't some amazing try by 2k to emulate less skilled post players, but simply a bad canned animation that triggers way too often on current gen. Just like big men setting screens in predefined spots instead of being aware of the situation is an AI problem and not an attempt to simulate real life mistakes. Player attributes and tendencies don't matter for these situations, it's simply an engine issue.

I agree that the CPU shouldn't be perfect. But what I'm seeing in the video are simply flaws that aren't new to 2k games.

[mobidick]

WHERE IS NEW ENGINE?
guess I saw thread Beluba saying "there is no skate sliding sh!t in new gen!"
It just looks like same sh!t from NBA2k14(aka NBA2k13 cuz they are basically just same sh!t) and even worse(****ty player's face and body type)
really disappointing move from 2k games!
just this game sucks worse and worse.
I just decided that I never buy this sh1t again ever.

[fluent2332]

Quote: Originally Posted by miller31time

If 2K retooled signature shots for 2K15, I'd pre-order the game right now. I really hate controlling some of the NBA's star players like Deron Williams and Joe Johnson, Chris Paul, etc, and seeing them shoot nothing like they do in real life.

This has been an issue for me for years. The shots don't look like their real shots, and they are flat out ugly. Shooting with guys like Nick Young, Joe Johnson, Steph Curry, Vince Carter and so many others should look pretty. The majority of jumpshots in the game look horrid

[bigeastbumrush]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

It used to be that Durant had everyone else's body. To make up for all those years, they gave everyone Durant's body. They really need to beef most of the bigs up a little around the arms. Even Lebron. It can't be that hard, can it? Overall much better than Cur-Gen. Even the freethrow fist bumps look so much more lifelike. Guys who need SLIGHT beefing up: Tyson Chandler Lebron James David Lee Andre Iguodala Kevin Garnett It's probably an all around problem with bigs/muscular forwards.

I definitely wasn't trying to stir the pot with my comment on the player models.

I think the player models are fine. In fact, I like the skinny looking bigs. I hope they leave them the way they are. Even Derrick Rose. Why is he being patched? The guy is slender. Leave him alone.

I should've been clearer. The models look like they have protruding collarbones or something. They just look off in that area. I don't know if it's the hang of the jerseys on them or what.

But they all look like something is wrong between their neck and upper chest area.

[hawley088]

These videos from the actual finished retail version of the game?

[mobidick]

sadly, Yes

[YouCantGuardMe]

Like dre12 said, my best guess is the game on the disc is an early build that they had to put out early for print and production. There's a good chance that the game was still being refined as discs were being produced. Which will be available via a patch.

I say this because all these gameplay videos and other clips like the momentous or eco-motion trailer all have varying model sizes. Garnett's head looks much more proportionate in the real voice trailer than in here.

Also are the Knicks rocking a 50's retro jersey here?

[eko718]

Quote: Originally Posted by bigeastbumrush

But they all look like something is wrong between their neck and upper chest area.

The shoulders are too slim for many of these guys. I'm glad that Derrick Rose has been adjusted and hopefully they correct many of these other models as well, because that simply is not how many of these guys look. Chris Paul is another guy who is way to slim(Allstar vid).