OS Roundtable: Looking Back at Football Edition

[malky]

DT says it all:

DT: Presentation. All football presentation was sorely lacking this entire generation. I'm a huge advocate of keeping NFL 2K5 in the past, but when a game from the original Xbox still has the best presentation from any NFL game ever, something is wrong. This goes for commentary as well.


Its like he is reading my mind and millions of others, PLEASE 2K FOOTBALL come back!!!... that is all

[wordtobigbird]

Quote:

MC: There are many, but if I have to chose one I will say that it's the aspect of individual team identities. For example, when you play Madden NFL 25 against the Chiefs, you should expect, and have to gameplan for, a large dose of Jamaal Charles and Alex Smith trying to carve you up in the short passing game. When playing the Saints, it's all about Drew Brees and his weapons over the middle and out of the backfield. What I'm getting at, I guess, is a higher form of artificial intelligence combined with real life statistics and play-calling tendencies. Signature styles, if you will.

This. If they improve the play calling AI on Next Gen it will do a lot to making the game more fun and will be easier than other huge changes to the engine or whatever else. Hopefully this is high up on the priority list.

[slick589]

Quote: Originally Posted by wordtobigbird

This. If they improve the play calling AI on Next Gen it will do a lot to making the game more fun and will be easier than other huge changes to the engine or whatever else. Hopefully this is high up on the priority list.

AI is one thing but the animations need to be there also. The stuff you see in madden isn't the stuff you see irl in relation to movement, interaction, and animations.

[wordtobigbird]

Quote: Originally Posted by slick589

AI is one thing but the animations need to be there also. The stuff you see in madden isn't the stuff you see irl in relation to movement, interaction, and animations.

Without a doubt. Personally, I'd want them to start from scratch with an entire new engine but that's not realistic. Speaking realistically, they could get the CPU to actually call the correct plays for the style of offense with the same animations and it would be a huge improvement to the game.

Especially because they have multiple teams that work on different things. I'm really looking forward to seeing what the player sense and AI improvements do for next gen.

[royounggoku]

Yea it's probably gonna be unanimous that we will never be in a good spot as long as that exclusive license is in place, especially when in the hands of an inferior product.

[royounggoku]

WARNING: I'm posting a video of All-Pro 2k8 PLEASE nobody catch feelings. Mute the video if you like because he's pretty much praising 2k throughout but please I encourage even the most hardcore of Madden fans if you enjoy football PLEASE fully look at this video objectively and give your thoughts.



I'm not saying there aren't quirky things happening, players to do make weird jerky cuts at times but it is by far overpowered by the beautiful gameplay. THIS is the kind of thing that needs to be seen and I don't know if it can happen without something drastic like an overhaul to the engine.

[wordtobigbird]

Preface, I have never played 2k8.

Less than a minute and half in and I am wow'd by 2 post play things in a row.

- At 1:15. After the whistle blows two guys get into it. One is pushing the other and they start pointing into each others faces.

- At 1:22 on the next play, the defender makes a tackle for loss. He lays out like hes dead for some reason lol but after that his teammate walks up to him and gives him some celebratory chest punches.

Makes me kind of sad that I didn't play it and that Madden doesnt have it.. :/

[royounggoku]

Quote: Originally Posted by wordtobigbird

Preface, I have never played 2k8. Less than a minute and half in and I am wow'd by 2 post play things in a row. - At 1:15. After the whistle blows two guys get into it. One is pushing the other and they start pointing into each others faces. - At 1:22 on the next play, the defender makes a tackle for loss. He lays out like hes dead for some reason lol but after that his teammate walks up to him and gives him some celebratory chest punches. Makes me kind of sad that I didn't play it and that Madden doesnt have it.. :/

Look at the downfield blocking at 2:20 man it's crazy.