Madden 25 Next-Gen Living Worlds Trailer

[Joba15700]

2k Football would have look a lot better ....... I still pick all prob2k8 over madden any day!

[therealsmallville]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I was at the Packer/Bear game in Lambeau Monday night. Honestly, in our section, it was 85% drunken males. At $85 a seat, I don't think too many guys take their significant others and family members to the game. One the way out, I saw the same mixture. I don't see many women and children in that picture. I do see a variety of ages and ethnicity, though.

This has been my experience as well.

[jpdavis82]

It's 2013, are we ever going to move on???? There's been good football games in the past, I'm ready for something better. Am I alone? I mean if you listen to the podcast interview, they mention how this is just the first iteration of Living Worlds, they have a lot of big things planned for it in Madden 15 already. Just remember guys that they are going to build off of everything that they do from now on, so this is just the beginning. Hopefully next year we will see some team specific memorabilia like team flags, cheerleaders, cheeseheads, terrible towels, even those stupid grater heads lol.

[KingofATL]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I was at the Packer/Bear game in Lambeau Monday night. Honestly, in our section, it was 85% drunken males. At $85 a seat, I don't think too many guys take their significant others and family members to the game. One the way out, I saw the same mixture. I don't see many women and children in that picture. I do see a variety of ages and ethnicity, though.

I have to disagree my Man. I am in ATL and at the Falcons games there are plenty of women and kids there. Now of course there are gonna be more men than anything else simply because it's Football. But it would also depend on what time the game is too. If it is a Sunday or Monday Night game then it would be less women and kids simply because kids have school the next day. So Moms tend to keep the kiddies at home during night games.

It also depends on the weather. Now the Falcons have a dome so weather is not a factor. But if you are @ a open stadium that would play into it as well. Snow, Rain, and Extreme Heat would keep more women and kids away. Not many women want to bring their kids to a stadium and sit there for 3 or 4 hours in the cold or the heat for that long. Guys don't care, ya know? We would do it in a heartbeat to see our favorite teams.

So there will always be more men than anything else at football games. But that doesn't mean that EA can't make the crowd more diverse. It is very unrealistic to have nothing but men in the crowd.

Just take a look at MLB The Show and look at their crowd. Very diverse with men and women. More realistic .....PERIOD!!!!!

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by KingofATL

I have to disagree my Man. I am in ATL and at the Falcons games there are plenty of women and kids there. Now of course there are gonna be more men than anything else simply because it's Football. But it would also depend on what time the game is too. If it is a Sunday or Monday Night game then it would be less women and kids simply because kids have school the next day. So Moms tend to keep the kiddies at home during night games. It also depends on the weather. Now the Falcons have a dome so weather is not a factor. But if you are @ a open stadium that would play into it as well. Snow, Rain, and Extreme Heat would keep more women and kids away. Not many women want to bring their kids to a stadium and sit there for 3 or 4 hours in the cold or the heat for that long. Guys don't care, ya know? We would do it in a heartbeat to see our favorite teams. So there will always be more men than anything else at football games. But that doesn't mean that EA can't make the crowd more diverse. It is very unrealistic to have nothing but men in the crowd. Just take a look at MLB The Show and look at their crowd. Very diverse with men and women. More realistic .....PERIOD!!!!!

Speaking of MLB The Show, the guy who's the Creative Director for next gen Madden, is the former lead producer of MLB The Show, so hopefully he will be adding the same kind of crowds we saw in that game. That game still has the most indiscernible crowds that we've ever seen in a sports game. What they're doing with next gen MLB is even more impressive, from 42 unique characters, to 1,000.

[therealsmallville]

Quote: Originally Posted by Joba15700

2k Football would have look a lot better ....... I still pick all prob2k8 over madden any day!

Well, the good news is that game is available for you to enjoy

Madden is never going to be a 2K clone. For everybody raving about 2K, and conveniently forgetting the issues those games also had, go play them. Enjoy. They're not going anywhere. I hear people here claim all the time "graphics don't matter to me, it's the gameplay!" So, download an updated roster for 2K5 and go have at it.

Where's the constructive criticism comparisons? "I pick 2K over Madden any day!" does not help things. It's posts like that that keep the devs from wanting to interact.

WHY would you pick 2K over Madden "any day"? Because it "looks better"? What about how it plays? Do you like their WR/DB interactions more? Is it the 2K8 kicking system? What? Do you have examples of why you choose one over the other?

The posters who actually take the time to dig up videos to compare it to, or post gifs showing how proper sideline interactions should be, my hat's off to you guys. Posters like roadman, big f'n deal, only1LT (and others that I'm forgetting), these guys all go out of their way to say "you know what? Madden doesn't do _______ right, but THIS video right here is how it should be done." Posts like that are how things get changed. Posts like that are why we're finally getting work done on pass/run blocking, actual foot planting (yes, I know, only 2 players with true step).

"Madden sucks", "I'll take 2K any day!" don't help at all. I'm sorry, but they just don't. So why don't you go play those games, and stop adding to the problem.

Sorry for the rant. I believe M25 (CG) is a good game. It's not great, and I don't believe M25 next gen will be, either. But baby steps (for now). I hardly post, but I'm a daily lurker. I just want to see Madden be great again, and if a dev pops in and sees random hate post #254, he's not even going to bother to read the good stuff. Stuff that can help.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by KingofATL

I have to disagree my Man. I am in ATL and at the Falcons games there are plenty of women and kids there. Now of course there are gonna be more men than anything else simply because it's Football. But it would also depend on what time the game is too. If it is a Sunday or Monday Night game then it would be less women and kids simply because kids have school the next day. So Moms tend to keep the kiddies at home during night games. It also depends on the weather. Now the Falcons have a dome so weather is not a factor. But if you are @ a open stadium that would play into it as well. Snow, Rain, and Extreme Heat would keep more women and kids away. Not many women want to bring their kids to a stadium and sit there for 3 or 4 hours in the cold or the heat for that long. Guys don't care, ya know? We would do it in a heartbeat to see our favorite teams. So there will always be more men than anything else at football games. But that doesn't mean that EA can't make the crowd more diverse. It is very unrealistic to have nothing but men in the crowd. Just take a look at MLB The Show and look at their crowd. Very diverse with men and women. More realistic .....PERIOD!!!!!

So, basically, for a Sunday/Monday/Thursday night games, you would agree with what I saw in person at Lambeau Monday night, not disagree like you mentioned.

Sunday games might be different. I'm just speculating, at $85 bucks a pop for the cheap seats there's more men vs families with kids.

I was at the Saints game at Lambeau on a Sunday last year in seats that cost three times as much and mostly men with a few wives sprinkled in, but no children.

[Hassan Darkside]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Speaking of MLB The Show, the guy who's the Creative Director for next gen Madden, is the former lead producer of MLB The Show, so hopefully he will be adding the same kind of crowds we saw in that game. That game still has the most indiscernible crowds that we've ever seen in a sports game. What they're doing with next gen MLB is even more impressive, from 42 unique characters, to 1,000.

I wouldn't get my hopes up. EA Sports is like the Dallas Cowboys. They were great in their hey-day but as long as Jerry Jones is at the top, doesn't matter who coaches the team or who's on it. You'll get your hotshot guys and extremely ambitious prodigies that want to come in and change the game but ultimately Jerry's gonna have them by the balls and have the final say in everything, so they need to be yes-men if they want to keep their job.