Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

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Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

How do you highlight this? It's the same problem that is in current gen. Players legs clipping through their own legs. It's just bad. You highlight true player motion and true step and still have things like this going on. I know true step isn't all over the field yet, but at least get this cleaned up. It just looks awful. I could see some clipping when characters interact with each other, that is just something that is going to happen with video games, but clipping into their own legs? That is something that should not happen. How does a mo-capped animation get put into the game like that? And this dude highlights it on next gen!!! LMAO.

How does J.J. Watt's player model get into a game looking like this? He looks like Dave from your local Wal-Mart stocking department

[GiantBlue76]

Quote: Originally Posted by RGiles36

Honestly, I don't think guys are harsh on Rex, Cam, and/or the dev staff. Most people speak to quality of the finished product -- not who's putting it together. That's why I don't get involved in all of those leadership and 3 year plan discussions. As a consumer, all you should care about is the product on the shelf. All those behind-the-scenes conversations simply provide a convenient distraction from what continues to be a subpar game.

I want to bring some special attention to this post right here ^^^. This post, in my opinion is THE BEST post in this entire thread. As someone who has been in software development for 17 years, this post is EXACTLY correct. Customers don't care about what goes on at your company, what kind of adversity you created for yourself, what kind of leadership and design changes you've had. They are paying for a product. As soon as you start providing excuses, they stop providing the money to you and they go elsewhere.

Once again, I wish everyone at EA Tiburon could read this post and understand it. I also wish they would understand that a big reason why they get sales is only because they are the ONLY game. It's the NFL people want, NOT MADDEN. This next gen game is looking really weak and sales will show it. There will be a boat load of excuses undoubtedly. Meanwhile, other games will be moving on and moving forward, and more and more people will begin to forget about madden. This was a HUGE screw up by EA sports, and the ramifications are only beginning.

[speedbreaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by reverend_heat

How does J.J. Watt's player model get into a game looking like this? He looks like Dave from your local Wal-Mart stocking department

look at the gut on jj watt looks like a offensive linemen what a joke!

[ruttentud]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jet Sufferer

I guess after 9 years on a desert island Rosie O'Donnell wouldn't look that bad either.

bahahahaha

[jyoung]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

You thought they made 2k8 in one dev cycle???? They made it in 3 dev cycles and it was for the most part a port of 2k5.

Wrong on both accounts.

All-Pro Football 2K8 was made in 6 months.

Visual Concepts started working on it in full in January 2007, and the game went gold in early July 2007.

It was not a simple port of NFL 2K5, either. According to Greg Thomas, the president of Visual Concepts at the time:

"All Pro Football 2K8 was rebuilt for next generation. I think that our overall plan has been: we want to keep the spirit of NFL 2K5, but we want to really build from the ground up on a lot of different [areas]. If there's a number, say six different key basic foundations to this game, we're probably rebuilding four of them. So I think that from that standpoint we're really re-engineering most of everything, but we do want that ultimate feel to be what our fans have always liked."

Obviously, they kept some elements in tact, but much of the code base was re-engineered for All Pro Football 2K8.

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Quote: Originally Posted by jyoung

Wrong on both accounts. All-Pro Football 2K8 was made in 6 months. Visual Concepts started working on it in full in January 2007, and the game went gold in June 2007. It was not a simple port of NFL 2K5, either. According to Greg Thomas, the president of Visual Concepts at the time: "All Pro Football 2K8 was rebuilt for next generation. I think that our overall plan has been: we want to keep the spirit of NFL 2K5, but we want to really build from the ground up on a lot of different [areas]. If there's a number, say six different key basic foundations to this game, we're probably rebuilding four of them. So I think that from that standpoint we're really re-engineering most of everything, but we do want that ultimate feel to be what our fans have always liked." Obviously, they kept some elements in tact, but much of the code base was re-engineered for All Pro Football 2K8.

Which is why it is so depressing to imagine what we would have on our hands if NFL2K 14 actually existed, I try not to.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

I haven't played the game yet but Sim said when he played he felt all player movement was different not just those who had true step and you can tell that in these videos by QJB, there's next to no skating in them.

You see what you choose to see dude. In this case, you're choosing to not see what you don't want to see.

[royounggoku]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

NBA 2k next gen is very close to a port of current gen, watch the gameplay videos, the game looks like cg with much better graphics.

They made a whole new engine for next gen.