Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - IGNITE Technology & Next-Gen Visuals (QJB)

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

I think some of it just boils down to ignorance. They don't know what's better and haven't experienced it so they go with what they know. I think if most people were as informed as we are, and got to see why we feel the way we feel, the tides would definitely turn. I mean it happened with NBA gaming. now EA can't seem to recover.

Yup, these kids don't really no any better, and that's who EA markets this game to. The casual gamer who sees shiny graphics and doesn't give a damn about how the game plays.

They think it's cool to see all the generic TD dances done, even when done by a guy like Barry Sanders, because they just don't know.

When they pop in this game on the 15th, they're going to see the stadiums, the lighting and the grass, and think it's the greatest game ever made. While we see all the things wrong happening on the field, they're mesmerized by the aesthetics because the majority don't know what proper football is supposed to play like.

As long as their are children, tourney players, online gamers and ESPN highlight watchers, Madden will always sell enough games to justify their stance on what they're giving us.

[Gagnon39]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

I think some of it just boils down to ignorance. They don't know what's better and haven't experienced it so they go with what they know. I think if most people were as informed as we are, and got to see why we feel the way we feel, the tides would definitely turn. I mean it happened with NBA gaming. now EA can't seem to recover.

I agree but I don't think we're there yet. I know a lot of kids that play Madden religiously and love it. I've heard kids talking about Madden 25 on PS4 and Xbox One and they think it looks great. And it's not just high school kids. There's many older sports gamers that buy it and play it and, like you said don't know any different. I haven't bought Madden for a while and I'm planning on getting 25 for the PS4. I'm still holding out hope that it will be a good game but every day that goes by in which EA does not release actual gameplay footage, I get more worried.

At least I'll have The Show to look forward to soon.

[Gagnon39]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

Yup, these kids don't really no any better, and that's who EA markets this game to. The casual gamer who sees shiny graphics and doesn't give a damn about how the game plays. They think it's cool to see all the generic TD dances done, even when done by a guy like Barry Sanders, because they just don't know. When they pop in this game on the 15th, they're going to see the stadiums, the lighting and the grass, and think it's the greatest game ever made. While we see all the things wrong happening on the field, they're mesmerized by the aesthetics because the majority don't know what proper football is supposed to play like. As long as their are children, tourney players, online gamers and ESPN highlight watchers, Madden will always sell enough games to justify their stance on what they're giving us.

That's exactly my point.

Players like us don't matter.

Hockey's probably the best example. I'm a huge NHL fan and love NHL video games. But lately EA's been going back to an arcade-style game. I want a game where players don't complete 80% of their passes. I want 25% of the game to be battling for the puck along the boards and I want it to be difficult to gain the offensive zone. Basically, I want an NHL simulation. The problem? Not very many people would want to play that.

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gagnon39

That's exactly my point. Players like us don't matter. Hockey's probably the best example. I'm a huge NHL fan and love NHL video games. But lately EA's been going back to an arcade-style game. I want a game where players don't complete 80% of their passes. I want 25% of the game to be battling for the puck along the boards and I want it to be difficult to gain the offensive zone. Basically, I want an NHL simulation. The problem? Not very many people would want to play that.

Preaching to the choir, man. What they've done to the NHL series is just absolutely ridiculous. It's why I stopped buying a few years ago.

[opd897]

Closeups and slow motion videos is all they will show us. Does this tell us anything? How about some zoomed out video of honest game play and maybe include a pass interference scene, or ANY penalty?

Oh yeah, whoever that is narrating the video really rubs me the wrong way. Not sure I can watch another although I suppose I could mute the narrator.

[lisinas]

To be honest i dont buy into this " we are minority , no one would play sim game except us" , thats not true , look at nba 2k, they went full sim with their game and what they accomplished ? They made EA quit on their arcadish nba live series , all the fans , casual,sim gamers are happy with the 2k product. If the sim route is chosen by the developers and the final product is good , everyone is happy , casual gamers who dont like to go into too much detail can just lower the difficulty settings and what not , while the sim gamers (there are more of us then you think) can enjoy simulation football.

[ThrowBack]

Quote: Originally Posted by apollon42

How hard is it to stick a mouthpiece in someone's mouth.

Yeah but if they put them in I guarantee you there will be some stupid glitch. Like drafted QB's and punters will have mouth pieces that can't be removed without screwing something else up.

[RateSports]

Madden has become the joke of next gen