Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - War in the Trenches & Passing Pockets (QJB)

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

How do you think, false starts and face masks occur now? It's a random occurence. The problem is H2H, tourney guys want control over every aspect of the game. They want Madden ball money plays where they can "lab" and get the game down so if they hit Y at the right time, every time, the same thing will happen every time. Or set up a nano blitz that can't be blocked. I didn't start playing 2k until current gen because I was a Madden fan on the ps2, but I can't bring up APF2k8 to you but that would make me a "fanboy" because that game successfully implemented bad snaps and penalties into their game. So I'll just say it can be done and leave it at that. I just want an organic game, that has players move realistically and isn't stale and predictable. The fans that EA caters to now just want predictable. That's why they are dealing with so much negativity these days.

Man I don't ever remember a bad snap in all my time with AP2k08. I also played plenty of cheesers online that did they same type of stuff people do with on Madden. PS2 gen EA football was much more of a cheese Fest online than now. Mike Vick anyone?

[royounggoku]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

I never asked you to prove an opinion???? In this thread, you accused some of being 2k fanboys. That's not an opinion but an accusation. Please prove it. In the other thread, you appear to have no idea how players should be responding on the sideline and are clearly wrong yet you refuse to respond to me. You can respond again with a GIF if you would like, but I assure you that you won't last here much longer if you do.

I think what it is, is that there aren't any specific people that blindly hate the game but rather there are a bunch of people that make valid critiques of Madden. But to a person that may be content with the current state Madden(for whatever reason) all they see is a wave of negativity towards the game that they like, and I think they register this as there having to be 2k fanboys or unreasonable people that just want to see it fail. I find that on these forums people don't like it when the thing they like receives criticism, especially to the degree that Madden does.

[dat swag]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

I never asked you to prove an opinion???? In this thread, you accused some of being 2k fanboys. That's not an opinion but an accusation. Please prove it. In the other thread, you appear to have no idea how players should be responding on the sideline and are clearly wrong yet you refuse to respond to me. You can respond again with a GIF if you would like, but I assure you that you won't last here much longer if you do.

Simple...My opinion is there are many 2K fanboys here...Just like its my opinion there are Madden fanboys here...Just like its my opinion that there are people who just want good games here...Unfortunately IMO one group yells louder than the other and is tolerated more than others.

Since you are focused on absolute statements I hope mine are not the only ones you are focusing on...That would be a shame IMO...Don't think IMO (emphasis on IMO) that I don't know what your end game is...very transparent IMO

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

Simple...My opinion is there are many 2K fanboys here...Just like its my opinion there are Madden fanboys here...Just like its my opinion that there are people who just want good games here...Unfortunately IMO one group yells louder than the other and is tolerated more than others. Since you are focused on absolute statements I hope mine are not the only ones you are focusing on...That would be a shame IMO...Don't think IMO (emphasis on IMO) that I don't know what your end game is...very transparent IMO

Can you elaborate on what makes someone a fan boy and what makes for valid criticism? I'd like to know if I am a 2K fan boy or someone who wants a good Madden game.

[royounggoku]

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Man I don't ever remember a bad snap in all my time with AP2k08. I also played plenty of cheesers online that did they same type of stuff people do with on Madden. PS2 gen EA football was much more of a cheese Fest online than now. Mike Vick anyone?

I'm pretty sure I remember there being times where I would get high or low snaps effecting the timing of my dropback. I know I'm 100% sure there were times where the snaps on my field goals were messed up to where it would effect how long it took me to kick, potentially resulting in a blocked kick.

[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by royounggoku

I'm pretty sure I remember there being times where I would get high or low snaps effecting the timing of my dropback. I know I'm 100% sure there were times where the snaps on my field goals were messed up to where it would effect how long it took me to kick, potentially resulting in a blocked kick.

Oh ok I see what you meant by bad snaps. I was thinking of from under center. I still see bad snaps out of shot gun on NCAA and madden. I don't remember a bad FG snap in AP2K though.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

Simple...My opinion is there are many 2K fanboys here...Just like its my opinion there are Madden fanboys here...Just like its my opinion that there are people who just want good games here...Unfortunately IMO one group yells louder than the other and is tolerated more than others. Since you are focused on absolute statements I hope mine are not the only ones you are focusing on...That would be a shame IMO...Don't think IMO (emphasis on IMO) that I don't know what your end game is...very transparent IMO

I'm not sure what you are hinting at with transparency or my end game is but if you are thinking I want to ban you then you would be wrong, I cannot either in good conscience or by rule do that because this is a conversation I am involved it, so moving on from that....


You said there are many 2k fanboys here, as well as Madden fanboys here. Please, answer what you are basing that on????? What makes a Madden fanboy at this point? What makes a 2k fanboy still?

I've played Madden and only Madden in my gaming years and that goes back to it iteration on the PC and from the sounds of it, before you were playing video game.



You are essentially arguing with people who want the same thing as you. That's what I find interesting.

You seem to be trying too hard to defend things that arent necessary which makes it so when you try and defend something legimate you have lost any credence you may have had.

See my response to you in the living worlds thread. You have yet to respond. I brought up a legitimate argument to you but you seemingly can't disptue that but instead you can try and play innocent here in this thread.

Like I told JP, I can appreciate your respect for the game, I can appreciate your want to enjoy the game.

But trying to project that upon others is the wrong way to go about your crusade.

Please, keep at it, but don't tell others how they need to feel or accuse them of being something they aren't.

[dat swag]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs

Can you elaborate on what makes someone a fan boy and what makes for valid criticism? I'd like to know if I am a 2K fan boy or someone who wants a good Madden game.

No...because its irrelevant. How does my preception of fanboy have any relevance whatsoever? It doesn't.