Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - War in the Trenches & Passing Pockets (QJB)

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Of course we don't want to, but the only way this game is ever going to get where we want it, is for it to become a simulation game. This game right now is in a transition and it's transforming itself from a arcade based game to a simulation game. That transformation isn't happening over night. What's happened in the past is done and over with. I'm living in the present and right now, we are in a transition stage. Everyone wants this game to be something that it cannot be in the amount of time people expect. You can't go from one person's vision to the next and the next and so on like Madden has and expect consistent results. Most sports games have had the same people leading them for years and years, Madden has not had that. Until we have a team in place going after a consistent and clear goal, which is what we have right now, the game will never get where we want it. Games like FIFA and NBA, NHL, they have had years and years of the same people in charge of their games and been working on specific goals and direction. We haven't even scratched the surface of where this game is about to go.

JP, sorry but you defended Madden then you bashed Madden like us now you defend Madden again. Which one is it?

Please don't bring up simulation. In one of those interviews Rex was asked a question. His answer to the question said they couldn't put this or that in the game because of tournament players... With that being said you can't say they are going for a true simulation game. These guys at best are trying for a hybrid... If you are going simulation you aren't going to say that you won't put something that happens in the NFL not in the game because of tourney players. Take the blinders off man. This team might be going more simulation, but they aren't going simulation.

Don't forget in that same interview he sounded like QB animations weren't a main focus. He said he wanted to nail the animations down before getting into signature throwing animations... Why would they not work on those at the same time? Those should be hand and hand... Makes no sense to fix throwing motions just to add signature styles later... Throwing motions should be different... Not generic... Doesn't make sense why they aren't hand and hand, just doesn't...

[slick589]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs

JP, sorry but you defended Madden then you bashed Madden like us now you defend Madden again. Which one is it? Please don't bring up simulation. In one of those interviews Rex was asked a question. His answer to the question said they couldn't put this or that in the game because of tournament players... With that being said you can't say they are going for a true simulation game. These guys at best are trying for a hybrid... If you are going simulation you aren't going to say that you won't put something that happens in the NFL not in the game because of tourney players. Take the blinders off man. This team might be going more simulation, but they aren't going simulation. Don't forget in that same interview he sounded like QB animations weren't a main focus. He said he wanted to nail the animations down before getting into signature throwing animations... Why would they not work on those at the same time? Those should be hand and hand... Makes no sense to fix throwing motions just to add signature styles later... Throwing motions should be different... Not generic... Doesn't make sense why they aren't hand and hand, just doesn't...

The question was can we have botched/bobbled snaps...he said no bc the tourny guys would flip ****.....that sums up madden

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by slick589

The question was can we have botched/bobbled snaps...he said no bc the tourny guys would flip ****.....that sums up madden

Yep you can't say you want a simulation of the NFL then proceed to say you can't add something from the NFL because it would hurt tournament players. Sorry, but that isn't simulation.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Alright, before the piling on continues to keep piling on, I do know that JP get's his sources from Twitter. He is constantly asking the CGer's(and these are well respected CGer's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) the questions and doubts we have at OS. These are the answers they are giving him. For instance, I noticed one person, state didn't you listen to the podcast, Rex said they are building a foundation of game play first and then adding in the bits and pieces around the foundation. That maybe Groundhog Day over and over again for all of us, but, until another developer or team comes in, we aren't changing the way the have their game plan set. It's discouraging how slow the process is, no doubt.

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to take what someone says that has an in with EA seriously. They have to be careful with what they say. They aren't going to be completely honest, why? Because they want to remain a gamechanger.

[radatdude2]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Because that's not how video game development works. Why is there a frostbite engine 1, 2, 3? Why does FIFA have great physics now? Because they started putting them in the game a few years ago, they were laughable, but they stuck with it and have built off of them to get them where they are today. You don't implement new features at 100%, you implement them, then build off of them and perfect them until you get them working near 100% quality.

You do realize this has been EA's plan for some time now with madden not for the Xbox1/ ps4? So excuse people for being just a little skeptical especially with this current development team who have touted these new features for next-gen which don't look anything like what we've seen from the e3 videos and features which have only been half way implemented. I agree it's not like the 360/ ps3 launch but it's not much better which should be expected that was 7 years ago so over time they have found new ways to deceive people.


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[charter04]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs

I'm sorry, but I'm not going to take what someone says that has an in with EA seriously. They have to be careful with what they say. They aren't going to be completely honest, why? Because they want to remain a gamechanger.

Your just wrong. That's not how the program works. Their are game changers that still very critical of EA on YouTube and they are still in the program.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Your just wrong. That's not how the program works. Their are game changers that still very critical of EA on YouTube and they are still in the program.

I have been watching some of them for a long time before they were game changers. If you are saying they are as critical on them as they used to be then I respectfully have to say "you're wrong..." Comes down to agree to disagree. Plus some of the game changers don't play a simulation style football. Not going to name names. But for the people that watch their videos and know who they are will know what I'm talking about.

[Lilgoosy]

1:26 the crowd is astonishing

1:32 Geno looks incredibly good