Madden NFL 25 Next Gen Video - War in the Trenches & Passing Pockets (QJB)

[Don Jon]

My last post piling on the bad crowds, anyone notice how the crowd always wears the jerseys that the home team wears? For example, one out of four people are wearing the pats red alternate unis, and no one is wearing the navy blue home jerseys. So you're telling me that the team let everyone know their jersey color the week before, and everyone went out and bought it. And no one decided to wear the blue, come on, I find that hard to believe lol.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by tfer717

I think the point is that they 'pride' themselves on their visuals. But in all honestly their visuals look like turd compared to other games. Looks like a cartoon. So saturated and overly bright. The player models look like pillsbury dough boys. Nothing is photo realistic. If they said they didn't work countless hours working on grass and fabric and reflections and lighting.. then I wouldn't say anything. but they often talk up their visuals. And to me... player models is #1 when it comes to that.

In the past yes they did pride themselves mainly on visuals, but they are mainly focusing on gameplay with Rex & Cam, and haven't said one thing about the player models themselves being that great or even improved on next gen Madden 25. They probably just ported the player models from current gen and gave them the new 10x resolution faces. I'm fine with that, they can get the player models right in 15 or whenever they have player movement right.

What good is it to have photo realistic player models if they don't move like real players? Now with that being said, we didn't need 10x better grass or whatever, that was unnecessary with where the game is at.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by tfer717

Literally was about to say the same thing. The countless amount of times I've heard the 'sit tight' excuse is ridiculous. I don't know why I even bother anymore

By my count? At least 4 years and pretty much from the same people.

[tfer717]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

In the past yes they did pride themselves mainly on visuals, but they are mainly focusing on gameplay with Rex & Cam, and haven't said one thing about the player models themselves being that great or even improved on next gen Madden 25. They probably just ported the player models from current gen and gave them the new 10x resolution faces. I'm fine with that, they can get the player models right in 15 or whenever they have player movement right. What good is it to have photo realistic player models if they don't move like real players? Now with that being said, we didn't need 10x better grass or whatever, that was unnecessary with where the game is at.

so what have the creative director, art director, and visual people been doing? took 2 years to do grass and emotionless faces?

[royounggoku]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Of course we don't want to, but the only way this game is ever going to get where we want it, is for it to become a simulation game. This game right now is in a transition and it's transforming itself from a arcade based game to a simulation game. That transformation isn't happening over night. What's happened in the past is done and over with. I'm living in the present and right now, we are in a transition stage. Everyone wants this game to be something that it cannot be in the amount of time people expect. You can't go from one person's vision to the next and the next and so on like Madden has and expect consistent results. Most sports games have had the same people leading them for years and years, Madden has not had that. Until we have a team in place going after a consistent and clear goal, which is what we have right now, the game will never get where we want it. Games like FIFA and NBA, NHL, they have had years and years of the same people in charge of their games and been working on specific goals and direction. We haven't even scratched the surface of where this game is about to go.

JP you are a consumer just like everyone else on here, what is this constant talk of "we"? THEY are the ones that keep changing the direction of what they're doing year after year. How many of these multi year plans have we heard so far? At a certain point you just have to say I'm tired of hearing about what's gonna happen and I want to start seeing what is happening.

And at this point I'm at the stance of okay if you wanna go on another foundation building multi year trip that's fine with me, but don't expect me to judge the game based on what I think the game will be in a few years. I will judge the game based on what I see before my eyes and if it's inadequate you'll hear it from me and my wallet.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

What good is it to have photo realistic player models if they don't move like real players? Now with that being said, we didn't need 10x better grass or whatever, that was unnecessary with where the game is at.

You're right, I would sacrifice one for the other, but based on recent views, we still have neither.

Still though, I would be very willing to look past that for any sort of more realistic gameplay. ANY sort, where are those videos? That is singlehandedly the most important thing to me.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by jbostic92

My last post piling on the bad crowds, anyone notice how the crowd always wears the jerseys that the home team wears? For example, one out of four people are wearing the pats red alternate unis, and no one is wearing the navy blue home jerseys. So you're telling me that the team let everyone know their jersey color the week before, and everyone went out and bought it. And no one decided to wear the blue, come on, I find that hard to believe lol.

I think they will be working on the crowds a lot more in the next few years, I think they just wanted to get the 3d crowd and sideline models in this year and will expand on them in the future. I fully expect to see crowds moving around and reacting to plays on the field in Madden 15, I also expect to see the players on the sideline interacting and reacting to what is happening on the field in a realistic manner in Madden 15.

Madden 25 next gen is just getting the code in place, I think Kolbe will get the crowds on par with what he did with MLB The Show and possibly exceed that.

[dat boi Q]

Don't worry guys it's always next year and the year after that