Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

[LBzrule]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

Couple thoughts...2K was just a trailer and while it looked great we have not heard or seen one mention of how they will deal with the plethora of online AI problems. If they don't fix the myriad of online gameplay problems it will be as useless as its current gen predecessor which is currently a drink coaster at my home. The AI and online gameplay is terrible in that game. Just imagine if all Madden was was two guys throwing long bombs and completing 1 outta 4 every series...Well...that's what 2K is to the 3pt shot. Huck and chuck run around and act a fool B-Ball...people taking close to 50 3's per game (5 min qtrs). Love or hate Madden it has become less cheesy to play year after year because whether many of you know or care to admit the AI in the game is improved. 2K AI is hot garbage online and lets be real in this day in age people want to play H2H online...These games are made to interact with others not play all alone with my special set of sliders that are slanted to make me feel good about myself...No offense to sliders and all that but its all about interaction and connecting to others. Mmany of us only play H2H or online so if a game can't pass that test its useless. 2K fails miserably Finally, All games across both platforms whether you get a Ps4 or Xbox One will be the same. If anyone getting a new next gen console thinks 2k or madden will play better on their console they will be disappointed.

completely disagree with the bolded.

[SageInfinite]

Hope they can clean up stuff like this in the future. Same problem on current gen with guys floating and keeping their balance instead of falling.

[GiantBlue76]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs

Please tell me how they can fix online gameplay? They don't control who plays the game online... This is just a big facepalm...

You fix online game play by fixing the game itself. THe reason why onlne gameplay is the way it is is because the mechanics, or lack thereof, that are in the game allow it. Being able to run backwards with QBs faster than defenders can run forward, throwing across the field and having coverage break down while running the opposite way, no need to even try to set your feet and still make accurate throws, etc. All of this crap makes 3rd and 20 plays easily convertable. It's the game, not the players.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by GiantBlue76

You fix online game play by fixing the game itself. THe reason why onlne gameplay is the way it is is because the mechanics, or lack thereof, that are in the game allow it. Being able to run backwards with QBs faster than defenders can run forward, throwing across the field and having coverage break down while running the opposite way, no need to even try to set your feet and still make accurate throws, etc. All of this crap makes 3rd and 20 plays easily convertable. It's the game, not the players.

He was talking about 2k. In which I responded with that.

[dat swag]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs

Please tell me how they can fix online gameplay? They don't control who plays the game online... This is just a big facepalm...

Offensive Rebounding: Online for some reason no matter what D you use or if you are protecting the paint when the opponent shoots a 3 the game goes dumb...You can have four defenders there and the ball goes directly to the one player from the other team. Recycle that scenario over 3-4 times ending with a 3pt shot in ya face. they need to do some tuning oor AI work on offensive rebounding and/or rebounding in general...because very rarely do you see a NBA team get 3-5 consecutive rebounds. It happens but nothing close to what its like online in 2K

3Pt Shots: The shooting logic in this game is a mystery. perfect releases don't go in...bad releases hit the bottom of the net. Thats not a huge issue with me because I realize that bad shots fall but IMO this game does not do enough to respect good D over someone forcing and taking bad shots. People are taking close to 50 3's a game because it works and they know the AI is broken in that department. if I take 50 3's and hit 39% of all three's taken thats a pretty darn good ratio. Add in online stability and this game is a coaster for your drink if you thrive on H2H online play. I don't think the guys who don't play online have any clue how bad this game is online. IMO its 2k's worst effort to date. Particularly since these are the same problems it has had every year.

Bottom line is the online part of that game makes it unplayable if you like to run plays and play sim basketball...Its not possible to do. The tools in the game to stop a lot of the nonsense just don't work...

Meanwhile in Madden they have many tools that actually work in stopping curls, deep balls, corner routes etc. The issue is will you have time to implement them prior to each play? For years all people would do in Madden would be hike and run backwards and throw crazy passes...ore set up some crazy nano that would result in everyone being forced to run a SG offense. Those days are gone...I play random folks in Madden all the time and I'm seeing far less cheese than I did in years past. In almost every area Madden has a defensive tool to combat something your opponent is doing and mostof it actually works.

[dat swag]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

Hope they can clean up stuff like this in the future. Same problem on current gen with guys floating and keeping their balance instead of falling.

What is exactly the problem here because I don't see it?..Are you talking about the RB?

[TeeDogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

What is exactly the problem here because I don't see it?..Are you talking about the RB?

I was wondering the same thing, but I think he's talking abut the guy in the background. looks like a guy starts to trip over No. 56 but does the "Infinity Engine" float. I hope they have cleaned up the Infinity-ignite whatever they want to call it a lot for next gen. it has a lot of potential but I hate the wonkyness

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

What is exactly the problem here because I don't see it?..Are you talking about the RB?

Nah the lineman in the back. Stuff like this happens on current gen all the time, when guys should fall, they hover and float off a both feet and still keep their balance. Look at my avi. Charles ran in for a touchdown after that animation. He got his foot caught on his lineman, during a juke animation, floated like that off a both feet continued to run.