Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Gameplay Trailer and Four More War in the Trenches Videos

[newtonfb]

Quote: Originally Posted by NBASLAM2001

Even the deepest 2K stans have to give props to those blocking videos. Yes we find flaws in everything (including the 2K Next-Gen trailer), but EA sold me here.

[spacedog]

There still seems to be a bit of gliding and sliding (which was pretty clear in the pass block footwork vid lol) but these under the hood changes are improvements that are pretty important. Late, yes, but I guess it's better late than never in this case too. Hopefully they work out the gliding and such even more for next year (I know we always hear that "next year" phrase).

[kjcheezhead]

I didn't see enough to say it's good or bad. The blocking and pocket formation looked better than I've ever seen in madden, but it was all focused on the offense. How do defenders get off these blocks? Also, in current gen almost every qb can run the read option, how easy is it for qbs to run through the spacing for huge gains?

The passing game is the same as current gen. On the Russell Wilson clip, the wr instantly adjusts his route with throw a wr open. That's a game killer for me, I need ball placement to matter in a football game and it just doesn't in madden since throw a wr was added.

I see potential for future madden if they take the same philosophy in the blocking with other aspects, but I'll have to wait see. They will probably follow this up by turning madden 15 into another madden 11.

[wordtobigbird]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

That part was great until u see this in the actual gameplay

Can someone who read that the true step was for all players please comment on this? I am honestly curious. Does true step only apply when someone is a ball carrier (since you say it doesnt have to be a RB). Those Olineman/DLineman definitely don't have truestep as many have pointed out the sliding/warping. Does truestep only come into play during free running and not animations? I'm confused. Thanks.

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

The passing game is the same as current gen. On the Russell Wilson clip, the wr instantly adjusts his route with throw a wr open. That's a game killer for me, I need ball placement to matter in a football game and it just doesn't in madden since throw a wr was added.

[NBASLAM2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheRealHST

My point is, because someone (god forbid) wants a quality product for the $70 they would have to spend for something they enjoy, all of a sudden they become "2K Stans": for finding flaws? gtfoh. Most of us dont care who makes a great football game, we just want a great game free of flaws. I dont care if my mom was making the game, if there are some flaws I see then Im calling it out. If she makes a great game then Im there. EA, 2K, Weird Al Yankovic...I dont care who it is I just want a great game. And we dont call it out because we are "stans" or hate the game so can we please stop that childish s***?. I am a CONSUMER, thats what I am. Would you buy a new car and not check anything about the damn car??? No lol SO whats the difference here?

I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I wasn't using 'stans' as an insult at all man. I was just saying those OL videos were impressive. EA gets called out all the time on OS (Heck look at 70% of the posts on this thread lol) and most of the time rightfully so, but I just really enjoyed these videos and thought it was an improvement.

[newtonfb]

Quote: Originally Posted by NBASLAM2001

I think you are barking up the wrong tree. I wasn't using 'stans' as an insult at all man. I was just saying those OL videos were impressive. EA gets called out all the time on OS (Heck look at 70% of the posts on this thread lol) and most of the time rightfully so, but I just really enjoyed these videos and thought it was an improvement.

They get called out because they do it to themselves. If you have an exclusive licence make the game a god dam good one. You have huge amounts of money to do whatever you want and you still have the the same engine but tout it is "built from the ground up" with band aides.
I could care less who makes a football game, i dont care if its nintendo as long as it plays up to par with the rest of the generation. 2k gets the credit because we have all seen what they can do. They had the best presentation and animations, etc. You think madden would catch up a year later but its been 8 years and we still dont have smooth animations..we have guys sliding and making jerky movements like ps2 days and we are on ps4 now!!

[Hiro1]

This is operationsports and 2K football can do no wrong. You like madden? You're the problem or you're defending the devil. Lol

[SteelerSpartan]

I give them credit for trying to finally fundamentally change the OL/DL. They at least acknowledge what everybody has been saying for years about it....which was that it was setup like an Arcade Game Mechanic an not a sim one.Seeing a DE/OLB in a Madden game shoot up the field is almost surreal.

However has anyone seen Eddie Murphy's stand up about a starved man being fed a cracker????? I think some of that is going on with some of this. Im happy they have acknowledged one of their legacy issues but they still need to deliver big time.

Im still not sold they've come up with a legit fix.

1st. Tiered Playcalling still isn't in which to me means there still will be too much of a script that plays out with these interactions.

I want to see more but I thought I could still see some suction going on. Everybody who has played much Madden knows that feeling of when you lose control of your DE/OLB and ends up getting sucked into a dance with an OL.

Im also a bit worried that they don't have enough effective push animations once they're engaged especially in the interior. No I don't want DTs instantly throwing OL if they have the ratings advantage like most of Current Gen...but they should be able to drive guys back into the QB and effect the qb/velocity of the throw