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Old 10-18-2013, 03:28 PM   #361
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Re: NBA Live 14 Gameplay Trailer

That doesn't look next gen @ all...

Well, this just confirms what I already knew...now back 2 the regular scheduled programming...
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:29 PM   #362
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I can never understand why some say "At least EA now has something to build on" They've been building for how long now?? EA just can't compete at this point and that's just my personal opinion not fact.

To each his/her own and I respect those who have offered an opinion of liking/not liking the trailer but fellows I've been around a long time and long enough to know that I would rethink my purchase of $60 plus on this title without a little more evidence that this title is up to fundamental standards. Just trust me on this




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You quoted exactly what I explained. Of course the game looks like that, but we aren't going to playing at an angle that makes their facial animations as prominent a part of the game as they were in this trailer. And it's their facial animations, more than anything else, that sets them apart graphically to Live.

When the camera is less zoomed, as is the case when the Lakers are pursuing LeBron on his dunk attempt or, or when the Warriors player(Draymond Green?) is standing afar in the frame of James Hardens FT attempt, the visuals lose a little of their luster.
It says in the post that the game looks like that when playing, and did you take a look at that IGN Rewind video? What did you think?

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Old 10-18-2013, 03:31 PM   #364
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This will be a direct post of opinion, if you don't agree! You don't have to quote my post a million times with your rebuttals!!!

People hated Elite 11 and hate Live 13 because both of them were poo and using the same engine.

NBA Live 10 was the last good Live game, and we all complained that Elite and 13 weren't built off that engine and they should have just upgraded from Live 10.

Well looks like in 14 that's exactly what they did, it's Live 10 with a lot of touch up and visual improvements. Yeah the dribbling mechanic is cool and all, but Live 10 controls were never broken.

I think where the disappointment in this footage and all the other footage, is that it's a 10% improvement from current gen basketball games and of Live 10.

When Live series went from Xbox Original to the Xbox 360, the games were 100% two different games. This is where the problem lies with this trailer and all the pictures they keep posting.

It's like 10% different 5% graphics and 5% controls, oh I'm sorry bouncetek (GTFO)

so tired of them naming all their engines and features all these weird *** names and analogies, when in motion looks like the same **** another toilet.

I for one in the Live community wanted this game to be a much different game going into the PS4 and Xbox One era. Looks like they should have rebuilt from scratch, like they lied and said they did. Listening to fans 4 games too late to build off Live 10 isn't worth the time and effort we ask for it 4 years ago.

And to give me that garbage about a 3 year plan, if it's building off this same graphics engine and gameplay engine...Then it will be the same 3 years in Live 15,16,17, etc.

I'm not going to say I'm disappointed completely, because the faces looked improved and details were better, but the whole time I watched this video, all I saw was what Live 11 and Live 12 should have been on current gen.

This should have been a Xbox 360, and PS3 game! Because with the capabilities of the Next Gen consoles this is visually mediocre at best. It might be pretty on the inside, but it's so average on the outside..
I agree with everything you say except for your skeptism on the 3 year plan. Like you said the problem with elite and live 13 was that they attempted to rebuild the engine instead of building on what they had with 10. It now looks like they are back to something similar to 10 except a bit improved. If they continue to build on the formula they should have success in a couple years. This could be similarto the nhl series last gen.

I am finding it difficult to understand how people are saying that 2k and live, graphically, aren't far off. Maybe I should watch the videos again but imo 2k looks much better. Although it is important to note that the games have 2 different art styles. I always d that 2k takes a more realistic "you are there" approach
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So far we have seen zero real time game play videos from either game. I am not a fanboy for either game. I am a basketball fan that would love a great, new experience with my basketball gaming. I hope both companies come through with a great effort and push each other for the entire run or this new gen of hardware.

The Live trailer is certainly not as pretty as the 2k one but is doesn't look all that bad. I for one cannot make an informed enough decision based on what we have seen. The Nash trailer was disappointing but this one was ok. Say what you will, at least Live showed some real time movement, not just a slow motion, sizzle trailer. Everyone on these boards, on IGN, around the internet in general is jocking the 2k trailer as the greatest thing since sliced bread. I may be alone on this but i just don't see what is so mind blowing about it. Before i get flamed, let me say that I have bought every single 2k game since Dreamcast on day one. I think its a fine series and have no doubt that 2k14 next gen will be great. I just don't see much from that trailer. As another post said, its mostly player intros, free throw routines and celebrations with a few open court dunks and a block from behind thrown in. The level of detail is astounding but the majority of in game play wont show it all.

Live showed a lot more player movement and animation and overall it looks decent. Will it play better than 2k? Likely not but it is far from an embarrassment, for now. Still waiting on actual footage of the game being played. I don't know how people can worship the 2k trailer and not think Live is at least worth a try on gamefly.
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Please watch this and tell me your impressions:

I already provided my impressions. If I wanted to be as critical of 2k as OS is to Live:

- LeBron was up way too high for a standard block, way too high. Couple of feet too high.

- Seems to still be a force field between collisions. Kobe sliding Rose back in air.

- Hardens beard went through his jersey.

- Kobe's face looks a bit off to me. Looks a bit wide and undefined in the chin/jaw.

- They dont have the proportions right on any of the faces if you look at it from a 45 degree angle, they look incredibly chubby. Hands look like sausages.

- Chris Kaman's beard is too dark and doesn't represent his current look. He doesn't even look like Chris Kaman
- Xavier Henry's model isn't replicated in real life
- Derek Fisher's face looks like the current gen just used for trailer purposes
- Kobe Bryant's face has a lot of discoloration and some of his face features need more tweaking like his jaw and nose
- Russell Westbrook also has some issues with his face and head
- Kevin Durant needs a little more tweaking on the face
- Lebron's face is a bit chubby
- Udonis Haslem's face needs tweaking
- Nick Young's face needs tweaking

And they showed us very little to no actual 5v5 gameplay. Mostly game stoppages such as intros, free throws, celebrations, etc.

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It's less that I am a fanboy per say, and more that I am not a sheep.
Lets chill with the insults. That goes to everyone.
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I agree with everything you say except for your skeptism on the 3 year plan. Like you said the problem with elite and live 13 was that they attempted to rebuild the engine instead of building on what they had with 10. It now looks like they are back to something similar to 10 except a bit improved. If they continue to build on the formula they should have success in a couple years. This could be similarto the nhl series last gen.

I am finding it difficult to understand how people are saying that 2k and live, graphically, aren't far off. Maybe I should watch the videos again but imo 2k looks much better. Although it is important to note that the games have 2 different art styles. I always d that 2k takes a more realistic "you are there" approach
Very FEW people are saying this. 99.9% of the opinions are that 2K is the first game that looks next gen. Live has a different art style than 2k and 2k has had years to perfect it. But at the end of the day Live is not going to get a pass just because they havent been around every year like 2K. At the end of the day, EA chose to step into the market and so far they have not been greeted warmly nor have they, BY THE OPINIONS OF THE MAJORITY OF THE INTERNET, responded well.

If Madden gets slammed and can't recoup the major year over sales it lost on current gen and Live fails to hit whatever sales goals they had in mind it very well could be a one and done for live.
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