Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass Video With Some Next-Gen Gameplay Too!

[RexDEAFootball]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dogslax41

Exactly right and what even I fear as hyped as I am after seeing that blocking improvement video. Below is a feature list from MLB the Show 13 over The Show 12. Compare that to year to year Madden imrovements especially Madden 12 to Madden 13, which was supposed to be their big advancement year. For MLB the Show, 12 to 13 was a year that even they said they were just working to help build their foundation. Madden apologists might not want to open the spoiler. Spoiler Back of the Box Items The “Post Season” Mode (PS3 & PS Vita) Cross Platform Online Home Run Derby (PS3 & PS Vita) Cross Platform Online Home Run Derby (PS3 & PS Vita) New Push/Pull Hitting Trajectories Engine (PS3 & Vita) Franchise and Season Mode Evolution (PS3 & PS Vita) Road to The Show Evolution (PS3 & PS Vita) The Show Live (PS3 & PS Vita) Diamond Dynasty 2.0 (PS3) TruBroadcast Presentations 2.0 (PS3) [b]New Scouting and Training System in Franchise Mode (PS3 & PS Vita)[b/] Road To The Show Commentary and Presentation Evolution (PS3) Online Road To The Show Leaderboard (PS3 & PS Vita) Universal Profile (PS3 & PS Vita) Button Accuracy Meter (PS3 & PS Vita) Steve Lyons Joins The Booth (PS3 & PS Vita) MLB 13 Online Leagues Overhaul (PS3) All the little additions that went along with those big items 1. Hitting engine improvements deliver more hit variety than ever before 2. Wider timing window across all difficulty levels 3. Improved ball physics (less ground rule doubles etc.) 4. Over 250 new fielding and running animations 5. Over 90 new batting stances 6. Over 130 batting stance re-captures for players who changed their stances 7. Over 50 new pitching motions 8. Over 60 new HR swings 9. New Defensive Positioning screen, view the whole field and watch players shift on the fly 10. Franchise Mode: Team specific player valuations – affect drafting, trades, free agency, etc. 11. Franchise Mode: Projected team budgets and free agents for the upcoming season 12. Franchise Mode: Previous award winners and each team’s Hall of Fame members will now be tracked and displayed 13. Franchise Mode: Ticker in Franchise that displays scores, milestones, trades, etc. 14. Franchise Mode: Top 50 Prospect icon, used to indicate best up-and-coming minor leaguers 15. Franchise Mode: Organizational Depth Chart displays starters at each level (AA, AAA, MLB) 16. New CBA “Qualifying Offer” system included 17. 7 New Minor League and Spring Training stadiums 18. On screen Tutorials to help you navigate some of the more complicated screens. 19. New silhouette bat when bunting 20. Back picks while a catcher in RttS 21. Ability to assign swing animations when creating or editing a player 22. Big glove for catcher when a knuckle ball pitcher is on the mound 23. Over 500 new presentations 24. Pitcher Energy/Rotations for Online Play Now 25. Mercy Rule for online games 26. Twitter in The Show 27. Ping indicators in online game rooms 28. New online ranked game Play Now flow with game worth 29. New post-game summary screen for all online ranked games 30. Player photos updating with Roster updates 31. In-game simulator when FF to the end of game 32. PCI Appearance – There are 4 alternate PCI appearances 33. Pitcher Batter Analysis will now display 40 instead of 25 pitches 34. New Throwback uniforms 35. More catcher animations on plays at the plate providing more exciting outcomes 36. Enhanced CPU base running. Less predictable and more human like behavior 37. New base running animations “around the bases”. Allows for more control of your base runner 38. New online ticker design, more stats and information 39. RTTS infielder’s pickoff request 40. New more interactive user steal system 41. Improved CPU pitcher substitution logic 42. New player card 43. Guess pitch evolution 44. RTTS Removal of the “green-light” system 45. Over 1,000 new RTTS-specific presentations 46. New RTTS user catch option 47. New RTTS On/Off options for ball halo and ball trail 48. Over 15 new batting camera’s and 5 new pitching camera views

EA does the same thing. Check the list for M25 Gen3 for yourself.

MADDEN 25 Game Play Additions and Improvements

Playbooks
o Heavy Focus on pistol option plays
o 351 new plays added overall
o 20 new formations added
o Two new legend coach playbooks added (Mike Ditka and Jimmy Johnson)
o 2 new playbooks (pistol, run and shoot)

Blocking
o Multiple types of new pull block animations
o New run block double team interaction animations
o Reach blocks have been added to the game
o 20+ new impact block animations
o 20+ new pass block/pass rush interaction animations
o New Pass Set/Pass Rush animations linked to QB drop depth (3, 5, 7, shotgun)
o Exponential increase in impact block coverage (matching blocks from at least 8 different directions)
o New zone step blocking interaction animations
o New lateral and vertical displacement animations for OL/DL interactions
o 30 new blocking schemes
o New Open field run block targeting system
o Adjusted block shed ratings for cornerbacks and run block ratings for wide receivers and tight ends so they align with how these positions play in real life.

Option
o Overhauled option mechanics (pitching, pitch man relationship, option blocking and option defense)
o New Dive Read and Pitch Key icons on option plays

New Skills Trainer Mode
o Total Control Passing Tutorial
o Pass Trajectories Tutorial
o User Catching Tutorial
o Acceleration Burst Tutorial
o Option Dive and Pitch Tutorial
o Triple Option Tutorial
o Precision Modifier Tutorial
o Ball Hawk Tutorial
o Offensive Hot Routes tutorial
o Offensive Audible Tutorial
o Oklahoma Drill Defense Tutorial
o Oklahoma Drill Offense Tutorial
o Defensive Audible Tutorial
o Defensive Individual Adjustment Tutorial

Physics
o New Stumble Recovery mechanic
o New force impact mechanics (stiff arm punch, truck, dive tackle, hit stick)
o Improved limbs being bent unnaturally by physics
o Improvements to conservation of momentum
o Improvements to post play physics interactions
o Reduced frequency of bad falls out of collisions
o Improved tackle alignment
o Improved balance tuning, balance now tuned by position vs. globally

Ball Carrier Mechanics
o Hurdle over dive tackle action
o Hurdle over defender in breakdown action
o New Stiff Arm Targeting system
o New ¡¥moving stiff arm¡¦ interactions
o Introduced new ¡¥avoidance¡¦ mechanic for ball carrier collisions with blockers
o 30+ new ball carrier (non-precision) animations
„X 6 new ball carrier combo moves
„X 2 new types of Stiff arms ¡V 5 new angles
„X New reach out ball dive animation
„X New Spin Move Animations
„X New Juke Animations
„X 7 types of Hard Cut Animations
„X New back juke animation
„X New acceleration burst animations
„X Revised Truck Animation
„X 6 new Ball Carrier Avoidance Animations
„X 5 types of Stumble Recovery Animations
20+ new precision modifier ball carrier actions using LT
„X Decelerate
„X Stutter Step
„X Strafe
„X Precision Spin
„X 90+ Spin Rating Precision Spin
„X Precision Dive
„X Precision High Dive (over blocker)
„X Precision Juke
„X 90+ juke rating precision juke
„X Precision Jump Cut (behind LOS)
„X Precision Hurdle
„X 90+ jump rating precision hurdle
„X Precision Back Juke
„X Precision Juke Spin Combo and Reverse Juke Spin Combo
„X Precision Double Juke Combos
„X Precision Truck
„X Precision Truck Spin Combo
„X Precision Back Juke Spin Combo

Defense
o New defensive mechanics - switch assist, heat seeker, dive tackle, hit stick lunge
o All new defensive fake out system with 15 new fake out animations
o 5 new hit stick animations
o 5 new hurdle tackles
o Revised animation for strip ball tackle prep
o Increased animation coverage for hit stick tackles
o Revised spin, club, rip and bull rush pass rush animations
o New initial move animations for read run key defenders

Community Exploit Fixes
o Inside pass leading on streaks has been toned down
o Curl to flat purple zone defenders now favor curl vs. flat as a greater threat
o We now allow DB¡¦s to get beat to the inside to reduce over effectiveness of 2 Man under
o Altered route to reduce fade route over effectiveness
o Reduced severity of pass leading on wheel routes due to over effectiveness
o Onsides kick return exploit fixed
o You can no longer hold ball hawk from snap, only works once ball is in air
o Reduced frequency of ¡¥over the shoulder¡¦ interceptions from LB¡¦s and Defensive Line.
o You can no longer no huddle audible to formations that do not match the personnel you have on the field
o Drastically reduced swerve running
o Removed delay after calling a defensive audible
o Added defensive key so user can define if read defender takes QB or RB.
o Increased penalties for taking big hits when running with QB¡¦s that are pocket passers

AI
o A variety of improvement to AI play call scripts
o Improved AI for throwing screen passes
o Improved CPU AI for beating 2 man under
o Major improvements to defensive pursuit logic
o New Dive Tackle AI for defenders
o Defensive breakdown behavior for AI defenders
o New run logic AI for CPU ball carriers, including AI for when to perform hard cuts
o Late game clock management improvements
o Improved post play pile get up logic
o Improved post play path finding and avoidance
o Improved CPU QB AI decision making
o Improved tuning for AI defenders biting on play action fakes
o Revised triggering conditions for conserve time play call behavior
o Improved CPU QB AI for scrambling
o Reduced frequency of CPU QB AI throwing ball out of bounds

Game Planning
o Disguised Cushion - Allows defenders to play with deep back off coverage principles without showing a back off coverage shell.
o Man Align ¡V Allows users to have their defenders in man coverage align directly over the player they are matched up against.
o 16 Personnel Packages
o New Audible by Personnel system
o Audibles can now be set in custom playbooks
o New position specific hot routes
o A variety of fixes and improvements to sliders
o A variety of fixes to custom playbooks

Other
o 25 categories of new player ¡¥on the field¡¦ audio with hundreds of line variations
o New pre-play camera and removed camera zoom on audibles
o New audio for physics collisions that scales based on severity of force

[Dogslax41]

Quote: Originally Posted by RexDEAFootball

EA does the same thing. Check the list for M25 Gen3 for yourself. MADDEN 25 Game Play Additions and Improvements

If you can compare the feature lists on those two lists and tell me with a straight face they are remotely equal then more power to you. Will be an interesting pitch since EA felt it necessary to comprise a huge segment of their "improvements" list with individually listed tutorials and individual button assignments.

[ghettogeeksta]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

Not sure I follow. So, are you saying that even though they share the same engine across all sports games, the AI will be different, the animations will be different and living worlds will be different? That's now I understood it, but maybe I'm wrong.

Yes that's correct, for example if Fifa adds a new feature Madden does not automatically get it, but if they choose to add it in the game it can be easily implemented with because of Ignite.
http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/26/igni...gle-code-base/

[tsbmolina]

Madden has essentially been the same game for the past decade, Right. No one cares about the damn blades of grass, Right. It has the same robotic animations as the 360 and PS3 versions, Right. If all the money that is being used on the exclusive license was instead put into game development we might actually have something worthy of the NFL shield, Right. I would be a moron to fall into this same hype crap for the umpteenth time, Right.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta

Yes that's correct, for example if Fifa adds a new feature Madden does not automatically get it, but if they choose to add it in the game it can be easily implemented with because of Ignite. http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/26/igni...gle-code-base/

Good find, I assumed it would be similar implementation all across the board.

Thanks.

[Bleak5170]

Love how the keep touting things such as the blades of freakin' grass! All the same crappy animations and whatnot are still there as far as I can see. No buy.

[Gosens6]

If this game wasn't coming with my PS4 bundle, I wouldn't be playing it. I smell another "3 year plan" coming. If that truly does happen, I will abandon this series for good until they give us something worth playing.

It's pathetic how the gameplay looks on Next Gen.

[Dogslax41]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

If this game wasn't coming with my PS4 bundle, I wouldn't be playing it. I smell another "3 year plan" coming. If that truly does happen, I will abandon this series for good until they give us something worth playing. It's pathetic how the gameplay looks on Next Gen.

I'm having a tough time even justifying a $15 upgrade cost from PS3. If Best Buy's deal is you get $45 for Madden no matter what game it goes towards then I am walking out with 2k in addition to FIFA, BF4 and Killzone instead of Madden. Even if I get a standard trade of $30 I may decide to eat the extra $15 I would have received and get something else anyway.