Madden NFL 25 CoachGlass Video With Some Next-Gen Gameplay Too!

[Dogslax41]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

Man, either they don't know how to, don't want to, or just don't care. EA has been trying to push their shoddy, in home presentation on us for awhile, and with these new consoles, it shouldn't be that way. Give us what we want, REAL TIME PRESENTATION elements of what we see every week on TV. It's disturbing that they know it's what we want, but keep giving us the middle finger.

It just doesnt make sense to me. When The Show put in True Broadcast people went nuts for it. To me its one of the more revolutionary things a game company has done with their game and was the foundation for The Show becoming one of if not he best sports video games ever. This has to have come up in a Madden planning meeting. If you do this for a living how does this come up and they just look at each other and go, "Nope, we dont need that fans like it better when players do a prerendered salsa dance by theselves in the endzone with no one else around." Its mind boggling. I can understand if noone had ever done it before but the blueprint is right there. And is it just a matter of pride and not straight up copying what 2k5 did because it wasn't their idea. Who cares, these other people set the standards in certain aspects in the sports gaming world. Get over yourself and straight up copy what worked maybe improve it a bit and fans will love you for it.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs

I understand the wait and see more gameplay because we haven't seen much. But on the other hand I also think it's just that people are in denial. From the gameplay we have seen so far it looks like the same game we play on current gen. Take the ESPN video for example. If they had not said it was next gen then nobody would have ever gave it a second thought. It would have been assumed it was current gen. Because the gameplay looked exactly the same and the graphics weren't a huge step up. Bad encoding or not it didn't change the fact that the gameplay and presentation looked exactly the same as current gen. Let's all hope that Madden 15 will take a huge leap into the direction we so long for. Because Madden 25 isn't it. It appears to be a slightly upgraded port of the current gen Madden. Madden 15 will be the judgment day. If it still isn't going in the right direction by then we will just have accept defeat and live to fight another die.

I'm not impressed with what I've seen up to this point, but I'm not going to critique what I haven't seen, either. Yes, I know with past history and everything else, it's not a pretty sight.

I just want to see AI, TruStep and animations.

If I like it, great, if I don't, no buy.

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dogslax41

It just doesnt make sense to me. When The Show put in True Broadcast people went nuts for it. To me its one of the more revolutionary things a game company has done with their game and was the foundation for The Show becoming one of if not he best sports video games ever. This has to have come up in a Madden planning meeting. If you do this for a living how does this come up and they just look at each other and go, "Nope, we dont need that fans like it better when players do a prerendered salsa dance by theselves in the endzone with no one else around." Its mind boggling. I can understand if noone had ever done it before but the blueprint is right there. And is it just a matter of pride and not straight up copying what 2k5 did because it wasn't their idea. Who cares, these other people set the standards in certain aspects in the sports gaming world. Get over yourself and straight up copy what worked maybe improve it a bit and fans will love you for it.

Reading this, I had a thought. Tiburon doesn't make this game to cater to us, the sim crowd. They make this game for their online market. This game is made so people who love playing online, can go on, get a quick ranked match in, get out, and repeat the process.

These type of people won't want RTP elements slowing down the game, or taking away from the action on the field. They don't care about stat banners, overlays, cool camera cuts, good, decent looking replays. They care about winning, and getting their awesome online rank up.

That's why we haven't seen them put any forth into their presentation. If the online Joe Cool gamer doesn't care, than neither does EA. SCEA makes their game for the hardcore baseball fan, that's why they give us what we want, year in and year out they up the ante on their broadcast presentation because they know that's what their sim fanbase asks for.

[TheBuddyHobbs]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I'm not impressed with what I've seen up to this point, but I'm not going to critique what I haven't seen, either. Yes, I know with past history and everything else, it's not a pretty sight. I just want to see AI, TruStep and animations. If I like it, great, if I don't, no buy.

I know I am part of the problem, but I already have Madden 25 paid off and I am not canceling. Honestly I am a sports gamer and very rarely game anything else besides sports. I need my football fix and I didn't buy Madden 25 on current gen. I did however play my brothers copy. It felt the same as 13, but I did plug the FBG rosters in the game and it played a lot better. I am hoping for very much improved AI, more variety in tackles, better CPU play calling, and better defense on next gen as well. We will see.

[poster]

I don't buy any of these excuses. They did tout that they have been working on the game for two years. Now that you see how sad it looks, the excuses start to fly. I don't know what in the heck they are doing, but there better be something behind the curtain.

This will be the game that brings football, back. Well, this game sucks. Don't worry, its because of next gen, wait until that game comes out. Now we have to wait for '15 to see some real innovation?

That's comical. There is no excuse for this game not to blow it out of the water. They have had the time, bragged about how they doubled their team in magazines, and claimed how they have this great physics system that will be awesome when gen 4 hits.

I'm still waiting to see something that jives with their story.

[Gosens6]

Quote: Originally Posted by poster

I don't buy any of these excuses. They did tout that they have been working on the game for two years. Now that you see how sad it looks, the excuses start to fly. I don't know what in the heck they are doing, but there better be something behind the curtain. This will be the game that brings football, back. Well, this game sucks. Don't worry, its because of next gen, wait until that game comes out. Now we have to wait for '15 to see some real innovation? That's comical. There is no excuse for this game not to blow it out of the water. They have had the time, bragged about how they doubled their team in magazines, and claimed how they have this great physics system that will be awesome when gen 4 hits. I'm still waiting to see something that jives with their story.

I don't think anyone is making excuses for them, in fact, we're all pretty much on the same page as you.

We're furious, you're furious, and EA doesn't give a damn because they know most of us will still buy the game

[ghettogeeksta]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I'm not so convinced, yet, I haven't seen the ignite engine enough in the videos. I want to see TruStep, the AI, and Living Worlds before making a decision. What I've seen so far, not impressed, but I'm waiting for more to come.

I starting to think all that Ignite stuff they touted wont come to light til years down the line, they were pitching the vision to us and we all know how visions turn out, THEY NEVER HAPPEN.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta

I starting to think all that Ignite stuff they touted wont come to light til years down the line, they were pitching the vision to us and we all know how visions turn out, THEY NEVER HAPPEN.

Then it doesn't happen for FIFA, NHL or NBA, either.