Madden NFL 25 Next-Gen Presentation Trailer (Official)

[BrianFifaFan]

Quote: Originally Posted by DucksFan28

Yeah this site has always been full of nba 2k fanboys, that bashes anything EA makes, just the way it is. I was a member years ago with a different name, but stopped getting on cause of the bias, it got annoying, I see it still is. I love 2k too, but I'm not blinded by the fact nba 2k been essentially the same game since 2k11, but everyone pretends like they can see and tell the difference every year, oh it feels so different this year etc. Is what everyone says. But when madden does the same thing everyone complains. Time to hold everyone not just EA accountable.

Wow. Vent much? Funny how you turned this into an OS bash. This game, and people's disappointment with it, has nothing to do with NBA2k, which made what was considered the biggest one year development jump ever between 11 and 12 by numerous gaming publications, as well as this biased site. That said, I'm going to try and ignore your snarky remark that was made at me and have a civil discourse. For myself, it's not about how wonderful my PC is. It's about how I bought all of the games that David Ortiz hyped, then actually believed that Ian would right the struggling Madden ship. He did, for the most part, with 10. Now I have my own opinion, which is shared by many of my long time friends on here, that Madden goes back to WIP every year. In a search to find itself. To find sales. Funny thing is, it's not even original ideas they try to fix it with. It's borrowed stuff from Fifa, the flagship title. Fifa Ultimate Team is making tons in microtransactions? Let's do it in Madden. Player Impact Engine? Infinity Engine.....

I get that people really love Madden. I used to, as well. But now, I stand by my point that was made. Pretty graphics don't blow me away. Blades of grass, not so much. I see them every day on my high dollar PC. It might impress some, not me. I need major gameplay upgrades to even ponder a buy. Maybe NBA2k or Fifa would make me want to blow 500 for a XBox1, but not what I saw last night. But even with the other two titles, probably not. I'm more than happy with the gameplay, graphics and that they can be heavily modded. So that leaves me looking at this title as a major piece in deciding whether to come back to consoles for gaming. I still have a 360 that works. My two boys play Disney Infinity every day on it. Now I will conceed that it is early in the game, and I do tend to lean towards the past in viewing Tiburon with skepticism. But I feel it is well earned. And so do a lot of the people who went through the last gen fiasco. "Ring Builder" and Ian showing us WR animations that somehow didn't make it in the game. How we all said the running animations that his guys came up with looked more authentic ( and 2k like) and he decided he didn't like them, and changed it back to the same tired ones.

If we seem bitter about Madden, it was earned over many titles. One reason I love OS is that these guys, and myself, as well, LOVE sports games. All sports. This isn't "2k is great and EA SUCKS," contrary to the popular opinion. NBA Live 10 got serious respect here. Fifa is getting love this year, as hard as it is for the PES purists. NHL gets mad love from it's fans. Why? Because they are great games. The Show gets mad love every year here. MLB2k got roundly booed, and rightly so. It was trash. So to the point at hand. This trailer did nothing to show many of us that Madden isn't still the same WIP, mistake of a game that many of us on here feel it has become. Does everyone here share that opinion? No. But it is pretty widespread. Not just here, but even with the major gaming sites. Legacy issues always get mentioned in reviews. Heck, PastaPadre, accused of being the biggest fanboy ever known of Madden, has started throwing barbs at it in his review.

Do I want Madden to fail? Nope. I love football games. And there is one less with NCAA being tanked. But I would like to actually have a good to great football game to play. As of right now, I cannot consider Madden to fit that description. It is decent to mediocre in my book. My book. That's the book that counts..... I'll watch this all unfold, and hope. But so far, meaning this first trailer, I'm still in "meh" mode. I'm over the kool-aid and hero worship. It's on Madden's team to make me want to buy it. And, yes, I get I'm only one sale. But one of the sales they lost. Question really is, do they even care? I think they should. 60 bucks is 60 bucks. They've lost a lot of $60 increments over the last few years.They all count, and they add up to a successful business.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by dat swag

2K is the same damn game with minor improvements...I love 2K but to be fair..Madden is the same game with minor improvements as well. Condemn one but praise the other for the exact same path? But I get it...some of you just don't like Madden...So i'll repeat myself...Move on cause just like 2K...madden aint changing...I get the feeling though that many folks would rather complain and be unhappy about madden no matter what changes they make. Madden will NEVER be good enough for some of these guys/gals.

The games arent even comparable. The leaps 2k has made in CPU AI, added features (My Player) and presentation in the last 5 yrs are light years past Madden and this is coming from a guy who plays Madden weekly.

The difference for me is if you take 2k14 and just add next gen graphics...most people would be satisfied with that game. Do the same for Madden and most wont be satisfied. The difference is 2k is a better representation of NBA Basketball (with slider tweaks) than Madden is of NFL Football.

Also, stop this rhetoric. Just like most people who defend Madden arent Madden fanboys, the people who want a better game and dont celebrate every small step EA makes arent all people who just like to complain.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by DucksFan28

Yeah this site has always been full of nba 2k fanboys, that bashes anything EA makes, just the way it is. I was a member years ago with a different name, but stopped getting on cause of the bias, it got annoying, I see it still is. I love 2k too, but I'm not blinded by the fact nba 2k been essentially the same game since 2k11, but everyone pretends like they can see and tell the difference every year, oh it feels so different this year etc. Is what everyone says. But when madden does the same thing everyone complains. Time to hold everyone not just EA accountable.

Really? A different name?....banned.

[sportzbro]

Obviously the graphics/details have improved, but pretty meh to be honest.

[packers96]

Look at 1:24 same players robotic movements.
Why is so hard to EA capture real player's motion ???

[FaceMask]

It's not that Madden Next Gen doesn't look good, it just doesn't look THAT much better than current gen. The graphical leap is minor. It's nothing like how huge the jump from PS2 Madden to PS3 Madden was and that's unnerving for a lot of people. You want the gameplay to be there, but history says it's highly unlikely with this franchise after 9 seasons of coming up shy in so many areas.

I don't know what to say about this anymore. Just seems like a never-ending cycle with this company.

[Kevin26385]

Quote: Originally Posted by FaceMask

It's not that Madden Next Gen doesn't look good, it just doesn't look THAT much better than current gen. The graphical leap is minor. It's nothing like how huge the jump from PS2 Madden to PS3 Madden was and that's unnerving for a lot of people. You want the gameplay to be there, but history says it's highly unlikely with this franchise after 9 seasons of coming up shy in so many areas. I don't know what to say about this anymore. Just seems like a never-ending cycle with this company.

With each console cycle, the jump will be less and less in terms of graphics. It is like the transition from VHS to DVD to Blu-Ray.

[huskerwr38]

Quote: Originally Posted by packers96

Look at 1:24 same players robotic movements. Why is so hard to EA capture real player's motion ???

For me, all I want is fluid and natural movements. PS2 and original Xbox madden and 2k both had extremely smooth and fluid movements. Why is Madden this gen and next gen plagued with these horrible robotic clunky animations? Add to the fact that they are the ONLY sports game that have these horrible ridiculous animations!