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Old 10-01-2013, 11:23 AM   #249
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:27 AM   #250
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Well, they did it. I didn't think it was possible, but Tiburon surprised the hell out of me, and I'm man enough to admit it. I wouldn't have dreamed it in a million years, but after watching this video, I'd be happy happy if the retail build turned out to be as underwhelming as the E3 IGN live demo

I can't even tell what's greater. My sense of disappointment, frustration, or anger. This is not good. It's really just not good.

I don't understand the defense that it's just a trailer. This is a trailer, that EA released, OF THE GAME! This isn't some rumor, or unsubstantiated gossip. This is the real McCoy.

Could this be an early build? Of course it could, but so what? It can not be guaranteed that the retail will be any better, worse, or the same than this trailer, so I'm going by what we have right now. And to me, what we have right now, looks the same as... well, what we have right now... on current gen.

There are no excuses to be had. Anyone that has played Madden extensively over the years, and who has eyes, can look at the video and tell, IMMEDIATELY, that the animations and player models look the same as current gen. Look at the juke. That is the exact same juke animation. Look at the QB dropback. The same. Look at the running animation of Cruz running the Fly pattern. Same running animation. The animations are the same. There is no disputing that other than being in denial. If the animations looked great as is, then that would not be an issue, but the animations are as far from great as Earth is to the Sun.

It actually looks worse than what was shown previously, and thought what was shown previously was mediocre. Even the graphical "fidelity" leaves much to be desired when comparing to other next gen games.

If this is an early build, and the end game looks much better than this, then they shouldn't have released this. In this case, it's ok to shoot the messenger (not literally). Bottom line, it isn't about them not talking about gameplay, or presentation, or anything like that. It isn't even about them going on and on (again) about grass. It's simply about what you can see in the trailer. That's all it should be about. That's all it is about for me, and what I see in the trailer has an uncanny resemblance to what I could go to GameStop and buy right now, if I was so inclined. I base that FACT on my eyes. No anti EA agenda required.

Still waiting to see something, ANYTHING, to get excited about. Yet, all I get is deja vu.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:31 AM   #251
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Not interested in blades of grass.

Looks prettier, but those animations look the same. The same weird jump-two-feet to the side juke. Who does that in real life? Players still look stiff.

Obviously, hardly any gameplay footage, so I'm underwhelmed.
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:39 AM   #252
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This next update with the true step player motion is going to be the one for me. I don't think any of us can deny that the very brief running animations showed in that Peterson video last week looked very fluid. I can only hope that was a sample of what we're going to get. If we get the same running animations as current gen, oh boy.....

According to their info on the Ignite Engine "Players accelerate, evade and shift momentum with the agility and explosiveness of real-world athletes" We saw a glimpse of that in that video.
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I'm over here virtually screaming at the computer screen, do people not realize this video IS NEXT GEN M25 TOO? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM

I think the other OS thread needs to be reopened because people seem to be getting the wrong impression. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...imulation.html

A few weeks ago when people were asking about next gen footage I kept pointing out that there was already some from the AP run game E3 demo, that was being overlooked because it was underwhelming. Now the same bs seems to be playing out again where all this focus is being put on and directed solely towards this trailer while the other underwhelming next gen video of MNF is being marginalized. Not to mention if the main reason for that MNF video being so bad was the encoding, at what point will EA or ESPN upload the same video correctly coded?
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:11 PM   #254
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I'm over here virtually screaming at the computer screen, do people not realize this video IS NEXT GEN M25 TOO? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SE3wLTZDtM

I think the other OS thread needs to be reopened because people seem to be getting the wrong impression. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...imulation.html

A few weeks ago when people were asking about next gen footage I kept pointing out that there was already some from the AP run game E3 demo, that was being overlooked because it was underwhelming. Now the same bs seems to be playing out again where all this focus is being put on and directed solely towards this trailer while the other underwhelming next gen video of MNF is being marginalized. Not to mention if the main reason for that MNF video being so bad was the encoding, at what point will EA or ESPN upload the same video correctly coded?
That is on ESPN, EA can only do so much. Yes, the video above is next-gen. However, I wouldn't look at it. The quality is awful (Just look at the blurry intro) and the gameplay seems sped up to fit into the segment.

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Wait, so the other video IS next gen footage?
Yes it was.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:21 PM   #256
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That is on ESPN, EA can only do so much. Yes, the video above is next-gen. However, I wouldn't look at it. The quality is awful (Just look at the blurry intro) and the gameplay seems sped up to fit the gameplay into the segment.
So it should be completely ignored due to the encoding issues, even though ESPN nor EA have made the same video with the correct coding available to the public? It doesn't make sense to accept a trailer as a replacement for an actually game play video with awful quality, what makes sense is that EA, ESPN or both replace it with a higher quality version of the same game play video.
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