EA Sports Will Not Publish College Football Game Next Year, Future Plans in Doubt

[lookatmenow]

Quote: Originally Posted by bc21045

You don't need to go to college to get educated, you don't need to go to college to learn how to solve problems or "think" and going to college doesn't guarantee that you'll gain those skills. The value of a college education is tied directly to the degree you get and the job you get because of it. The number of people who want to be professional athletes who don't make it is completely irrelevant. People wash out of every career field, that's not what we're talking about. If an athlete doesn't make it to the pros then they have to figure out what to do with their life, that's on them just like every other student who doesn't make it in their chosen field. In no way does that change the fact that they're working and not being paid, you can't call the scholarship compensation when other students get the same benefits and none of the restrictions or responsibilities that apply to athletes. More to the point, none of what you said addressed the fact that schools are admitting unqualified athletes and not educating them simply because those athletes can make money for the school. If you're not bringing them to the school to educate them then how is the education a payment?

Totally agree!
People who are against college players being paid are just ignorant or jealous, bottom line

[GGGswim]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dogslax41

To be fair the unethical exploitation started with the NCAA. They chose to deem it ok to sell players likeness. EA was a co-conspirator but in the end it was the rules put in place by the NCAA that created the anti trust situation.

Finally! Someone that catches on to patient-zero (just watched World War Z; sorry for the off the wall reference there). The NCAA (important, or not, to know: I work in sports media for a D-III college) handed the rights to EA to move forward with likenesses, etc. If it had, instead, stated "we'll allow you to use the logos, bowl games, stadiums, but you're going to need to switch up your numbers (no, the A&M QB can't default to a So. wearing #2) as well as not defaulting DL #7 for So. Car. to be an African-American with other-worldly measureables, among other 'likeness' issues," we wouldn't be in this mess.

This kind of start with the NCAA football franchise would have eliminated it from any type of O'Bannon or Keller lawsuit, which would then have become only about TV money, for example, and where it is and is not being funneled.

EA might should have been a little smarter back then with foresight, but it was tossed the keys to the Land Rover and blindly drove through every obstacle it should have seen coming.

Note #2, I think we are all out of luck when it comes to servers, patches, etc. Those with more knowledge than me about the back end of how things work can shed more light on this, but without an active server does the game 'revert' back to default? Or do the patches continue to work because they were downloaded to your console? One thing I'm pretty sure is an indication is that when running a R2G season as the TAMU QB in NCAA '13 and I couldn't get onto the servers, my uni choices were more limited.

[Spooky]

I don't get the whole argument that the scholarship is a trivial reward. How much longer would college football last if they took it away?

I mean its insignificant right? Do away with it and let the players come on their own dime and sign all of the licensing deals they want. I'm sure that would successful....

[C the Lyte]

Quote: Originally Posted by bc21045

A plan B is a great idea for ANYONE, the point is you can't say "i'm offering you a chance at a plan B so I don't have to pay you for the work you're doing now" and if you're willling to call it compensation then the conversation turns to is it fair/equal compensation and it absolutely is not. The point about them not being prepared is not that the athlete doesn't take advantage of it, it's that they're not capable of taking advantage. The best example is obviously dexter manley who left college illiterate. How was he going to take advantage of a college education? What value was the school providing to him? What an athlete does with their money is of no concern to anyone just like what I do with my money is of no concern to anyone. Who cares if a guy made league minimum (around 300k I believe) for six years and couldn't handle his money? The point about a law student being offered an education in art history is that you can't get a degree in being a pro athlete and the college coaches aren't there to prepare you for the pros. Preparation for an NFL or NBA career is a by product of that coach trying to win right now. So you're giving athletes an education in something they're not interested in and something that won't help them in their chosen career in most cases. Also the athletes are not "privileged" they earned the scholarships.

So, are we to pay the golf teams for their "work"? Are we to pay the band for their "work"?

Where does it end? Heck, let's start paying high school kids for their work. And the middle-schoolers, well, working-class age just got a lot closer for my son!

They aren't offering a chance at a Plan B. You are devaluing the price and advantages of an education.

Your point of a lawyer and art history degree was really a poor example of comparison, but I knew what you were trying to get at. However, there are no degrees that say "NFL Middle Linebacker."

And yes, the athletes aren't privelaged to receive scholarships, they earn them. I never said they were privelaged. I said they receive privelages the average student doesn't. You misread me. That said, there are also some really foolish restrictions on full ride student athletes. That really needs to be revisited.

[kehlis]

So...about that college football game that isn't being made anymore.......

[Sam Marlowe]

"Amateur status", "education", ect are all just red herrings at the end of the day with respect to this issue. The entire transaction (which is what this really amounts to) is very simple when you're at the levels of competition where the real money made. The player is interested going somewhere to maximize his opportunity to become a professional. The institution is looking for players to help them mantain/attain a successful program and therefore increase revenue generated. "Education" has absolutely nothing to do with what either side is really interested in at this level. But some of you are perfectly ok with colleges using it as some kind of compensation? LOL...

[statum71]

Extremely disappointed.

Well, hopefully we can keep this one alive for as long as possible.

Roster updates, tuners, maybe even some DLC........I'd buy.

[kehlis]

Okay I'll try again, a little less coy this time.


No more talk about if college players should be payed. That isn't what this thread is about and we've done it enough here.

I'm sure thee is a thread still open discussing it you could dig up if you wanted to.

This thread is about the discontinuation of this series. Not whether or not players should be payed.

Lets keep this thread open.