NBA 2K14 Video - Player Ratings: Classic Teams and Euroleague

[midwestking100]

Quote: Originally Posted by Red Kafe

Do people realize it's not 2k's fault if legends aren't included , that the players have to agree to it ? Smh Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free

True, but all I'm asking for is to customize courts, logos, an improve CAP and a collection of retro jerseys,shoes etc.

[VinnyVegas28]

Quote: Originally Posted by VDusen04

I shall take you up on this assertion. I recognize "general consensus" will be virtually impossible to define in this case. The same can be said for "most people's eyes". However, regarding a general overlooking of the legends by most, I challenge such statements. From what I recall, the legends and their subsequent modes were met with much adulation. For one example, the mere reveal of Legends Mode in 2K12 drew a 27 page thread filled with almost universal praise here at OperationSports: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...test-mode.html The Jordan Challenge? Praised to high heaven: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...announced.html Even the news regarding the addition of LaPhonso Ellis was good enough to draw 7 pages of responses: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...st-mode-3.html From what I recall, the Greatest Mode, Jordan Challenge, and classics in general - with their real life NBA player replications, era filters, and attention to authentic detail, received near universal praise from critics and fans alike. Does that mean everyone liked it? It does not. Does OperationSports represent what everyone wants or likes? It does not. But were legends viewed and received as being something no one really cared about with little to no weight or bearing upon how successful 2K was as a franchise? They were not. I'm not sure anyone expected the blowing out of classic teams in 2K12 would mean the game would be perfect. Unlocking the '91 Warriors on day 1 was one of my favorite gaming moments, but it did not take away from the occasional frustration that'd come with crossing a defender up with Tim Hardaway only to have that same defender magically recover with no sense of physics. I loved the legends, but I still thought the game could use some work in other areas. So when you say, "the general consensus by those vocal on the boards was that the game sucked", I'm not sure how the legends tie in to that statement. Also, I found this statement to be vague: "And the efforted era-specific presentation applied to the game didn't mean much in most people's eyes." As previously alluded, who represents "Most people's eyes"? Is it the people who were pulling heavily for a completely fictional, pre-destined, control-less future mode revolving entirely around LeBron James? A critically acclaimed creation (I'd be interested in seeing a review that didn't absolutely laud the Greatest Mode and other classic additions) gets the silent treatment just because it wasn't the most played mode of all time? "The hardcore chastised them because they wanted more". I find that line to be misleading as well. The hardcore loved the Jordan Challenge, the Greatest Mode and all the classics that came with it. It made gamers let their imaginations go wild with other potential additions. I never really saw a lot of reasonable chastising. But you're right in this regard, the hardcore did want more, because what'd been added was already so flipping awesome. They wanted more of it. "the younger/more casual gamers could care less about the Legends (even more modern legends like Jordan)" I once again find such a quote vague and perhaps misleading. I believe it's a common fallacy to quickly conclude, "The youngsters don't care". If I were a youngster, I'd be offended. You say the youngers/casuals don't care. I say my little brothers still can't get enough of playing as GP, Penny, and Tim Bug while my casual friends gravitate toward MJ, Larry, C-Webb, Magic and the Bad Boys. I will say this - I agree the Dream Team addition was in fact criticized (especially in comparison to the Legends and Jordan Challenge). I believe it deserved its criticism. Whereas the classic teams were based in reality (real jerseys, opponents, home courts, players, and shoes with the ability to fully edit), the Dream Teams were real rosters that were completely unable to be edited, could not be used in any other mode, and did not feature real opponents. As such, for most folks, there really wasn't a point in using them. That ol' fantasy line was crossed. What sort of immersion is left when all that is provided is two teams, separated by 20 years, playing each while wearing red and blue generic blocks for shoes on a court that doesn't really exist?

Very well said and completely agree.. I think the Jordan mode in 2k10 took this game to another level. I would be willing to pay for dlc with more legends and teams... endless replay value

[Handsome]

"Dr. J" Julius Erving is still missing from the 70's and 80's 76ers.

Kareem Abdul Jabbar is still missing from the 70's Bucks and the 80's Lakers.

And they completely took out Chris Webber's Kings and the 1992 Dream Team.

I'm an old school fan.. looks like I'll be skipping this year's game.

[Red Kafe]

Quote: Originally Posted by midwestking100

True, but all I'm asking for is to customize courts, logos, an improve CAP and a collection of retro jerseys,shoes etc.

But at this stage you should it wouldn't happen on current gen . Next gen is the new wave


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[JasonMartin]

Quote: Originally Posted by kaletore11

European basketball is entirely different from NBA basketball, so the ranking are not bad, and players are not overrated. Take a look at the summer games between the best European teams and NBA teams, almost every game finishes very close, European teams win quite a few games as well. Would their players be highly rated in the NBA? Most of them wouldn't, for sure. But in the system they play and in the "European basketball style" they are great players and should be rated accordingly. And the Euroleague teams aren't for anything else than exhibition in 2k, so it doesn't really matter, does it?

I was wondering about the ratings.


I think 2K rated the FIBA/European teams in their current NBA-style-rating. So it's easily comparable for player A from a Euro team to compare to player B from an actual NBA team.


Imho, these Euro players should be rated higher in their own system/class. Like you said, Spain (even with the Gasol brothers, Ibaka) matches up well against a stacked Team USA.

[benson_bone]

Hahaha no new legends, keep holding on to your ankles loyal 2k buyers.

[xman2k]

Quote: Originally Posted by spankdatazz22

I'll take the contrarian view just for argument's sake. Let's see... when 2K blew out Legend rosters in 2K12, the general consensus by those vocal on the boards was that the game sucked. And the efforted era-specific presentation applied to the game didn't mean much in most people's eyes. The hardcore chastised them because they wanted more, the younger/more casual gamers could care less about the Legends (even more modern legends like Jordan). 2K adds the Dream Team for 2K13 and again is chastised more for what they didn't do versus what they did do. Now everyone wants competition. Yet no one places these same expectations on the competition. Just the presence of additional competition is going to mean lower revenues for the 2K brand, so why continue putting in a lot of effort/money on something so few seem to appreciate? Or perhaps take for granted? Considering it's not expected of other sports developers (granted it's probably easier to do in team sports with smaller rosters). I suspect if 2K went to a DLC model people would flip out because "they used to get it for free". Given those factors one has to wonder if the juice is worth the squeezing. I'd say it is, but the general vocal consensus is it isn't. That said, I'd love to see more content/attention given to the Legend content. But I understand why more effort wouldn't be placed into expanding the feature. I'm surprised they lasted beyond 3yrs myself.

I feel exactly as you do. All these people are lucky even to get a few classic teams. All one has to do is look at Madden, look no further, no competition, no effort at all to broaden the scope of the game. 2K has brought an array of things that people take for granted. Nba Live is now the savior? they haven't even seen any gameplay or presentation and they claim they're switching and I absolutely believe it may not contain legends.

[P Rich 317]

Not a single new retro team... Been waiting for the Pacers for a while now, c'mon 2k stay with it.