NBA 2K14 Features Crew Mode - 3-on-3 or 5-on-5

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Quote: Originally Posted by MarvinOida

But then why some of the Crew guys going off about 5v5, realism, immersion, blah, blah, blah. Ive been told by Crew guys, 5v5 HAS to be there, well, if we want CPU players, than whats the point of 5v5 when 3v3 is an option? Please tell me why a lot of people begged for 5v5, but also wanted CPU players as fillers for 5v5. (Understand for the 4 member moments, other than that, I don't see anything else.) Tap Tap Tapatalking away from my iPhone

Exactly! lol. I'll tell ya why. I played 2k11 crew. What do they do? Call 1-3-1 zone with Lebron. Then spam that double team when you get in the paint. That ain't crew! It's lazy man defense. They can call it what they want but that ain't how the mode was supposed to be played, or is it how REAL basketball is played. The whole thing about crew was this first person POV, replicate 5on5 real humans action. Drones and bots does not replicate that.

So imo, good for 2K for making the right decision on this. They've given us options for when hardly no1 is on (play 3on3) or when you have a full squad.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Jrocc23

Not about to dive deep into this. I'll give you one of my reasons, just play a blacktop 3v3 game and tell me that's real basketball. ALL that open court. It's so easy to score in that setting is ridiculous. It's not realistic playing on a court w/ 3 guys defending 3 people. People wanted 5v5 because they wanted a realistic basketball setting, not a pickup game. They didn't say, all 10 players has to be a user. Look at a Crew game and then look at blacktop 3v3 and tell me which one looks like real basketball. It's barely any bball strategy on defense or offense with 3 players on each side. C'mon, it's common sense.

That's on the users. Hey I've gone to pickup games irl and guess what? Sometimes there's a bunch of sucky players who have no clue how to play, and sometimes there's college-level competition. As long the gameplay is balanced, a lot of it "looking real" will depend on the users.

[MarvinOida]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jrocc23

Not about to dive deep into this. I'll give you one of my reasons, just play a blacktop 3v3 game and tell me that's real basketball. ALL that open court. It's so easy to score in that setting is ridiculous. It's not realistic playing on a court w/ 3 guys defending 3 people. People wanted 5v5 because they wanted a realistic basketball setting, not a pickup game. They didn't say, all 10 players has to be a user. Look at a Crew game and then look at blacktop 3v3 and tell me which one looks like real basketball. It's barely any bball strategy on defense or offense with 3 players on each side. C'mon, it's common sense.

Both. Everyone is use to seeing 5v5, but its always possible to play "sim" with at least 2 teammates. (2 v 2 would be just PnR)

Its common sense that if a group plays with a real life strategy, its realistic and sim. Doesn't matter the setting. Your park, your gym, or the NBA.

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[Jrocc23]

Quote: Originally Posted by MarvinOida

Both. Everyone is use to seeing 5v5, but its always possible to play "sim" with at least 2 teammates. (2 v 2 would be just PnR) Tap Tap Tapatalking away from my iPhone

2v2 isn't a real simulation of basketball neither is 3v3. Like I said, watch Crew and then watch Blacktop Mode. Way easier to score in 3v3 and a big part of the reason is because how much space is on the court.

Basketball was really meant to be played with 10 players on a court. Sure you can play a 3v3 or whatever, but it's not a real simulation of basketball.

Basketball is a sport played by two teams of five players on a rectangular court. The objective is to shoot a ball through a hoop 18 inches (46 cm) in diameter and 10 feet (3.0 m) high mounted to a backboard at each end.

Street basketball is a variation of the sport of basketball typically played on outdoor courts, featuring significantly less formal structure and enforcement of the game's rules.

[MarvinOida]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jrocc23

2v2 isn't a real simulation of basketball neither is 3v3. Like I said, watch Crew and then watch Blacktop Mode. Way easier to score in 3v3 and a big part of the reason is because how much space is on the court. Basketball was really meant to be played with 10 players on a court. Sure you can play a 3v3 or whatever, but it's not a real simulation of basketball.

On what grounds does it make it a standard that sim only applies to 5v5? Wasn't basketball made originally 9v9? Its playing sim that's more important, and like you said, you can play sim 3v3, because i think what you're trying to say is Emulation.

Emulating what you see and how everything works, rather than being sim and doing what individuals do.


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Quote: Originally Posted by Jrocc23

Basketball is a sport played by two teams of five players on a rectangular court. The objective is to shoot a ball through a hoop 18 inches (46 cm) in diameter and 10 feet (3.0 m) high mounted to a backboard at each end. Street basketball is a variation of the sport of basketball typically played on outdoor courts, featuring significantly less formal structure and enforcement of the game's rules.

Did you read the entire article?

It also said "basketball is usually played by humans." "no drones, robots, or pets allowed. *exception: Space Jam and AirBud"

[Jrocc23]

I don't know what it orginally was, but it's not 3v3 and I know it's been 5v5 ever since I've been watching. I said all that was needed in the first post. Way too easy on a big court w/ 3 defenders.

Quote: Originally Posted by MarvinOida

On what grounds does it make it a standard that sim only applies to 5v5? Wasn't basketball made originally 9v9? Its playing sim that's more important, and like you said, you can play sim 3v3, because i think what you're trying to say is Emulation. Emulating what you see and how everything works, rather than being sim and doing what individuals. Tap Tap Tapatalking away from my iPhone

[MarvinOida]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jrocc23

I don't know what it orginally was, but it's not 3v3 and I know it's been 5v5 ever since I've been watching. I said all that was needed in the first post. Way too easy on a big court w/ 3 defenders.

Yeah that's Emulation what you're trying to say. Cause its why you mimicking what we see instead of focusing on one object like a player.

Spoiler

Emulation is the process of mimicking the outwardly observable behavior to match an existing target. The internal state of the emulation mechanism does not have to accurately reflect the internal state of the target which it is emulating.

Simulation, on the other hand, involves modeling the underlying state of the target. The end result of a good simulation is that the simulation model will emulate the target which it is simulating.

Though I could be wrong...


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