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Old 08-21-2013, 09:14 AM   #57
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Hey now, if I remember correctly I'm pretty sure Hall shut down Dez in the NFC East play-in game last year. :P But yes, for the most part Hall get's burned a lot.
Last year he did a admirable job in the last game, but in years past he's always had Halls number.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:34 AM   #58
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Last year he did a admirable job in the last game, but in years past he's always had Halls number.
Dez Bryant had one good game against Hall in 2012. He didn't break 100 yards against him in his existence in the NFL any other time before and after that.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:50 AM   #59
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I love reading the overalls that Madden puts on people because I just laugh on overrated they are. Aldon Smith is really overrated in his overall. He's an elite pass rusher as a LB, but as a pass defender, he's mediocre in pass coverage. Just being at one thing doesn't make you a great player. It's like saying Dwight Freeney is a great OLB, when he is just great at rushing the passer.

Madden should really use FBG's ratings as a helpful guide and not just look at stats, because it's pretty obvious that's what they do, just look at stats alone. It's been asked forever but I doubt we will ever see this "Czar" (that's an insult to any Russian Czar, Moore isn't good at what he does.) think about how players really are, from scout information and what not.

I just wish 90s wasn't used as the guys who are most popular with good stats. 90s should be reserved for guys that are HoF caliber players that have an all around play at their respective positions and are in their prime of their careers. Being good at one thing doesn't make you a great player at your position (A. Smith being an elite pass rusher doesn't make him a great OLB, he lacks that pass coverage skill.) Because I could say JaMarcus Russell should be higher rated because he has a cannon for an arm, but it's everything else that should be added up that makes a player elite, not just being good at one particular thing.
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:56 AM   #60
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I love reading the overalls that Madden puts on people because I just laugh on overrated they are. Aldon Smith is really overrated in his overall. He's an elite pass rusher as a LB, but as a pass defender, he's mediocre in pass coverage. Just being at one thing doesn't make you a great player. It's like saying Dwight Freeney is a great OLB, when he is just great at rushing the passer.

Madden should really use FBG's ratings as a helpful guide and not just look at stats, because it's pretty obvious that's what they do, just look at stats alone. It's been asked forever but I doubt we will ever see this "Czar" (that's an insult to any Russian Czar, Moore isn't good at what he does.) think about how players really are, from scout information and what not.

I just wish 90s wasn't used as the guys who are most popular with good stats. 90s should be reserved for guys that are HoF caliber players that have an all around play at their respective positions and are in their prime of their careers. Being good at one thing doesn't make you a great player at your position (A. Smith being an elite pass rusher doesn't make him a great OLB, he lacks that pass coverage skill.) Because I could say JaMarcus Russell should be higher rated because he has a cannon for an arm, but it's everything else that should be added up that makes a player elite, not just being good at one particular thing.
Agreed. He is a good pass rusher only. I wonder what his zone and man coverage stats are?

Curious to what you think about Lawrence Taylor? He sucked big time in coverage, you think he is elite?
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Agreed. He is a good pass rusher only. I wonder what his zone and man coverage stats are?

Curious to what you think about Lawrence Taylor? He sucked big time in coverage, you think he is elite?
As a pass rusher, yes, but I wouldn't want to have him in pass coverage that often. I would have him play DE on normal plays and when exotic blitzes are coming, I would move him back to OLB. Granted, I would have him in pass coverage sometimes to keep the defense modest, so they won't know if he's blitzing or dropping back, but I would try to prevent him from being in pass coverage as much as possible because it would be a waste at what he's good at and not be liability on the field.
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:42 AM   #62
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If Richard Sherman is a 96 then Patrick Peterson is a 95, just sayin
Sherman is way better than PatPete

and I love PatPete.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:55 AM   #63
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Any word on when the defensive excel chart is coming?
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You're obviously biased. Peterson ranked 18th in coverage on Profootballfocus.com

Coverage has never been his strong suit - his athleticism is his strength - the craft of the position is his weakness without question. DeAngelo Hall is a very fair comparison because if he doesn't work on his craft he'll end up like Hall around Halls age as he'll lose a step in the athleticism. We've already seen Dez beat him like a drum in preseason like Dez does Hall year in and out - a foreshadow perhaps?
This might be the most ridiculous comparison I've ever seen. I've watched DeAngelo Hall since I was in high school when he played at Deep Creek and I've played against Patrick Peterson at 7 on 7 camps and in college. In terms of his game, Patrick Peterson is still raw in some aspects but he's a Top 10 corner on this league right now. If you put him in a man cover scheme like Revis and Cromartie are playing right now, hands down he'd be top 3, but the fact he plays in a heavy zone blitzing scheme under Ray Horton hinders him a tad.......and he's still top notch, that's scary. At the worst he should be compared to Charles Woodson because their games are similar. DeAngelo Hall doesn't even rely on athleticism (which isnt in Peterson's category btw), he always gets caught trying to anticipate play and sitting on routes rather than doing his job. To be honest the only game when I saw Patrick Peterson get worked was against the 49ers last year by Michael Crabtree on MNF
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