FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

[azdawgpound]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ice_Cold345

For Madden 12, I believe only the ratings that effect the overall are shown. And, I believe his ratings are based on the Madden 13 Overall formula, because I believe it changed from Madden 12 -> Madden 13.

hmm ok I was gonna try this for 13 but wow if the overalls are gonna drop 10 overall points that be weird having a team like browns having the starting qb be a 60 overall. wonder how that would effect a ccm if u tried it? lol

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by garret2

that sounds awesome! hopefully people will complain less about player speed, strength, etc. cause its straight from the scouts who watch/grade them every day

Actually the exact opposite happens. More people complain because they realize that the fastest players out there who have real speed are not who they think they were.

Case in point: Chris Johnson

http://www.fbgratings.com/members/pr...php?pyid=32966

CJ2K posted one of the fastest 40 times ever recorded at the NFL combine with a 4.24. However, his split time was 1.40 seconds, tying him for the fastest 10 yard split (measuring initial burst) ever. When you plot his splits and differentiate, you find that his acceleration is tops ever, which is why his ACC is a 99.

His SPD, however, is only a 90, because his maximum velocity over the course of the last 30 yards of the run is elite, but not amazing.

Ponder this: CJ2K's 40 time is great because of his great initial burst, yet he reached his top velocity at 32 yards into his run. He actually SLOWED DOWN after 32 yards. World class sprinters, however, reach their maximum velocity at 60-80m. Football players are made to get up to speed quickly in short areas (like the confined dimensions of a football field). CJ2K excels at this. However, his SPD, although elite, is not the best the NFL has ever seen. His ACC, however, is (or is at least tied for best ever).

The fastest time ever recorded for a 10yd split is 1.40 by CJ2K and several others including Jermain Austin, Justin King, Cedric Peerman, Antwon Blake, Jerron McMillian, and Trevor Coston. However, none of these guys posted speed ratings in the 90s. So although they had equal acceleration to CJ2K, they were at least 5 points behind:

CJ2K: 99 ACC, 90 SPD
Austin: 99 ACC, 70 SPD
King: 99 ACC, 85 SPD
Peerman: 99 ACC 84 SPD
Blake: 99 ACC, 85 SPD
McMillian: 99 ACC, 83 SPD
Coston: 99 ACC, 80 SPD

As you can see, what separates CJ2K isn't necessarily his speed OR acceleration, but rather, it is his speed AND acceleration that makes him fast. Few players have both SPD and ACC rating over 90. 189 players since 1997 have an ACC rating of 90+. 396 players have a SPD rating of 90+ in that same span. However, only 13 have had BOTH including:

CJ2K: SPD 90, ACC 99
Yamon Figurs: SPD 91, ACC, 90
Michael Ray Garvin: SPD 91, ACC 97
Darrius Heyward-Bey: SPD 92, ACC 94
Deon Butler: SPD 90, ACC 90
Jocoby Ford: SPD 95, ACC 92
Tiquan Underwood: SPD 90, ACC 90
Geoffrey Pope: SPD 90, ACC 95
Chris Williams (New Mexico State): SPD 90, ACC 94
DeMarcus Van ****: SPD 94, ACC 90
Johnny Knox: SPD 91, ACC 90
Cody Pearcy: SPD 90, ACC 90
Jay Hinton: SPD 91, ACC 90

Compare that to the player with the best SPD since 1997, Reggie Dunn of Utah, and now the Pittsburgh Steelers. Dunn's acceleration may be just above average for a WR at 84 due to his 10 yard split of 1.52s, but he covered the final 30 yards in 2.70s, giving him sole possession of the 99 SPD rating. So in terms of raw SPD, he has it. His ACC and SPD combination will allow him to run a 40 in 4.22s, just a hair better than CJ2K's 4.24. However, at the start, CJ2K will blow him out of the water.

As you can see, the ratings at FBG may look strange and odd to those used to EA's overuse of high ratings and lack of a true data-based distribution, but once you analyze the logic behind it, you come to find that it is a more sound way of rating players as close to true-to-life as possible.

The science doesn't lie.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by azdawgpound

ok how do u get the rest of the ratings because certain ones u can't edit like throw power etc and power moves so the overalls are lower then whats stated..... I just did Joe Thomas it says he's an 89 overall but since u cant edit certain ones his overall is an 80. so if we cant edit half the ratings almost all players are gonna be 10 points lower then whats stated in the ratings for fbg.

You would need the ability to edit all of the ratings to get the full effect like with the assistance of an editor.

The reason your OVR doesn't match up is also because the formula for OVR calculations have changed. I will update the formulas once the new game drops.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by azdawgpound

hmm ok I was gonna try this for 13 but wow if the overalls are gonna drop 10 overall points that be weird having a team like browns having the starting qb be a 60 overall. wonder how that would effect a ccm if u tried it? lol

Well you are lucky so far because Weeden and Campbell are both at 70 and 69 so far...just hope they don't get hurt cause then you are down to Hoyer and he is only a 64.

[ghettogeeksta]

Are they going to do a roster for Madden 25 and upload it to Roster Share?

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta

Are they going to do a roster for Madden 25 and upload it to Roster Share?

No, FBG ratings is not going to do a roster. We do not make rosters.

[azdawgpound]

haven't tried a game yet but I got half the offense done on browns im through the te's and so far the highest rated players are Brandon Weeden @ 69 and Brandon Jackson @ 69 also.

Trent Richardson comes in at a 65 overall.

I gotta feel sorry for anybody who wants try update a whole roster file with these ratings I've started on these at like 6:30 and its going on 8 here and im not even through whole offense yet and I still have 49 players to edit lol.

[ghettogeeksta]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

No, FBG ratings is not going to do a roster. We do not make rosters.

Ok, so are yall going to adjust ratings for all the players and upload them to Madden Share?