Madden NFL 25 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360, PS3)

[ghettogeeksta]

Quote: Originally Posted by therizing02

I can appreciate your comments JP, but lines become "tired and cliche" after they get repeated year after year because EA refuses to address certain aspects of the game but repeatedly used tired/cliche lines in their annual marketing blitz. I will agree that there is some sort of programming glitch in the game that is not allowing penalties to trigger. However, knowing that penalties are a huge part of the game EVERY SUNDAY and MONDAY NIGHT, I would think that a developer that is trying to develop a realistic game would put a little effort into this part of the game at some point over the last eight years. What I think is hilarious as well contradictory and downright lame are when people(not you specifically) will defend the game when they do something correct, and use the no game is perfect and/or it's just a video game when something needs to be addressed.

You can't just randomly have penalties called in a game the players have to actually commit the foul in which they would have to create new animations for. For example pass interference, how can you have those when there is no db/wr interactions after 5 yards. I think that they are so far behind and have been playing catch up just to get the game back to par that penalties are just not high in the priority list. Maybe if they get the basics down early next gen then they will have time for things like custom camera angles, player individuality and penalties.

[Sturzinator]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

see you in November I disagree that more and more people are giving up, I think more and more people are starting to have hope and can see the direction this game is headed. Now like I said, in November, on next gen, then people REALLY will start to see the direction and have more than just hope, they will have evidence.

I have had hope for years on end. How'd that work out for us?

I'm afraid you'll be crushed come November. More of the same tired, fruitless pattern to come.

[schmit_95]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

see you in November I disagree that more and more people are giving up, I think more and more people are starting to have hope and can see the direction this game is headed. Now like I said, in November, on next gen, then people REALLY will start to see the direction and have more than just hope, they will have evidence.

JP, can you elaborate as to why you are so positive we are all going to be begging to come back on the Madden train in November, when at the same time others on this site have said stay away from next Gen, stick with current gen? Is it just your gut feeling? I know I can never truly judge except for myself, because everyone is different, but I wonder what has you so positive that this will finally be "the Madden we've all been waiting for".
All this being said, Im trying so hard to get excited for August 27.

[TeeDogg]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

That's right, you are right, everyone does have an opinion. It took me 5 minutes to adjust sliders to my liking. To me, it's worth it. Plus, there isn't a sports game I've played where I didn't adjust sliders.

I agree. this is the best first impression ive gotten from madden in years. and the only problem I have with sliders is they are getting rid of some. I think the more the better. this dream of the perfect sim coming out and not needing sliders is just that, a dream. opinions will always vary, and rightfully so.

[Armor and Sword]

Quote: Originally Posted by therizing02

I can appreciate your comments JP, but lines become "tired and cliche" after they get repeated year after year because EA refuses to address certain aspects of the game but repeatedly used tired/cliche lines in their annual marketing blitz. I will agree that there is some sort of programming glitch in the game that is not allowing penalties to trigger. However, knowing that penalties are a huge part of the game EVERY SUNDAY and MONDAY NIGHT, I would think that a developer that is trying to develop a realistic game would put a little effort into this part of the game at some point over the last eight years. What I think is hilarious as well contradictory and downright lame are when people(not you specifically) will defend the game when they do something correct, and use the no game is perfect and/or it's just a video game when something needs to be addressed.

I don't disagree with your post. In regards to the penalty system, I truly believe it is a deep rooted hard coded flaw in this gens engine. I really believe at this point and probably 2 years in to this gens dev cycle....it was unfixable. Otherwise I truly believe Tiburon would have made effort to fix it. The game has had a rough go of it this gen.....but 10, 12 and now M25 managed to keep me interested in Madden for multiple seasons. Where as last gen it was an every year purchase automatic.


I will go next Gen in 2015....unless The Show and NBA 2K blows my mind next year and forces my hand.


Notice how I do not expect Madden to do that. And Madden was the reason I went PS2 at launch...and suffered through some sub par games when you look back at it.


It takes IMO 2-3 years before the Devs get fully immersed and comfortable with the new CPU power. I did not get my PS3 till late 2009. Great decision for The Show and 2K and my first Madden this gen was 10...so every other year has been a letdown big time (11,13...blech).


M25 is IMO going to be the best this gen as long as the Connected Franchise functions properly. Plus Madden Share....huge.


I am not as nit picky about my football.....like I am about my Baseball and Basketball.


I am a life long Madden Player.......so of course I am not picky. Madden has never been a complex sim football game. It has been fun fun fun with enough simulation elements to keep it deep (franchise mode, all the on the fly adjustments on the field). Franchise mode was the glue for me with Madden.....it was lost this gen till M12.


And I think that is why M12 gets so much love. The franchise mode was the deepest thus far this gen.


I think M25 will be better....with owner mode to boot.....it is shaping up to be really special IMO and keep me playing this game till Next Gen....whenever that is for me.


Bravo on a good effort (based on the demo thus far...a full retail review will come) this go around Tiburon. I am one happy camper right now.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by schmit_95

JP, can you elaborate as to why you are so positive we are all going to be begging to come back on the Madden train in November, when at the same time others on this site have said stay away from next Gen, stick with current gen? Is it just your gut feeling? I know I can never truly judge except for myself, because everyone is different, but I wonder what has you so positive that this will finally be "the Madden we've all been waiting for". All this being said, Im trying so hard to get excited for August 27.

I'm trying to keep focused on demo impressions for this thread, but look at this demo and then look how they are taking what we have here and adding key things like improved running animations with true step, which will allow an animation for every step instead of every 3 steps like we have now(reason we have had ice skating all of current gen), better ai and contextual awareness, better o/d line interactions, 10x graphical fidelity, living sidelines etc... We aren't getting a bare bones next gen M25, it will have owner mode, CFM, plus all the gameplay improvements I mentioned.

[tfctillidie]

Quote: Originally Posted by Potvin63

I'm wondering how people are making snap judgments about the game based solely on a pretty limited demo. Too early to pass judgment until the retail version drops but if people want to talk themselves out of or into the purchase based on the demo that's on them. Not sure what people were expecting it to be.

When you've played the game for a decade plus, logging 1000's of games. It's not hard to see the fine print right away.

You know exactly what to look for.

[canesfins]

Haven't payed attention to M25 news but is there a Fantasy Draft option?