Madden NFL 25 - How To Stop The Read Option (MyMaddenPad)

[harlemkiid149]

i'm just hoping they drop Oregon's playbook from NCAA 13 onto Madden 25. Skins should have a really interesting playbook as well. Rams are my sleeper team this year just for fun i think they could really put up a lot of yards through the air.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by DeuceDouglas

Yeah I'm not expecting it but depending on how it works in game, I think it could be solid. I'm guessing when players are fatigued and perform these "slower/sloppy" moves it will be like NBA Live when you tried to pull a crossover or spinning dribble move with some big guy that would result in some clumsy looking move that usually resulted in a turnover.

For the progressive fatigue to work, if they ever implement it, the CPU AI would have to be able to make smart decisions about using backups, and the game would have to come out to the correct number of plays on average (for 15 min qtrs with accelerated clock or some equivalent). Too many plays per game throws off all kinds of statistics and would mess up a progressive fatigue.

[baller7345]

Quote: Originally Posted by californ14

Last year we saw more of the Read Option and to very good success; rarely in the NFL does anything, outside the basics, last longer than a year...I am willing to bet the Read Option this year will go the way of the wildcat....

The read option isn't some gimmick though. Its very open ended to who is the read man on the play, you can leave just about anyone in the front 7 unblocked and read off of them if you so desire. Too add to this the base portion of the zone read is a running play that every NFL team runs, the inside zone. When you run 9 inside zones and 1 zone read it becomes very hard to stay committed on the defensive side of the ball. Combine it with the fact that the Redskins a huge portion of their offense off of the same inside zone run action and the zone read becomes a killer constraint play. It may never see the same usage rates that you would see in some college schemes (which is still less than many people would think) but its not something that you can just chalk up to a one year wonder.

You don't even need to run the ball as a QB to run a zone read anymore. Many teams run variations of the zone read with built in quick screens with the inside zone while reading off of one of the LBs (this is a popular play for the Packers). Other teams have attached quick 1 and 3 step passing concepts with draw and zone action (think of the famous Hologerson Stick/Draw concept). The zone read is very open ended in how it can attack a defense and because of that it should have much more staying power than something like the Wildcat which is much more of a one trick pony.

[gaberox]

Press X/Square to have the Read defender go after the Runningback – The Read will crash and chase the Runningback
Press A/X to have the Read Defender go after the Quarterback – The Read will stay at home and attack the QB when he starts running

Best news Ive heard yet. I cant stand the read option in 13. The way the screen zooms makes me feel like I have no control over my guy (always user MLB) at least now I can assign the DE to attack the qb. To me its the most overpowered play this year as it seems any and all qbs break a ton of tackles, never fumble and never get injured. In my last online CCM game Sam Bradford runs right through Nick Fairly on the option for a game winning TD. Really?

Am I the only one who feels qbs run way to strong on this play?

EDIT: I see this was addressed a few pages back. Thank goodness Im sick of every qb running like Earl Campbell.

[Trick13]

Anybody have the numbers on QB fumbles from this last year?
Curious as to what percentage of league wide fumbles are attributed to QBs? RBs? And so on. I never seem to get QBs to fumble - user/CPU doesn't matter they never cough it up against my defense - even blindside hit sticks and strips never work...

[gaberox]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trick13

Anybody have the numbers on QB fumbles from this last year? Curious as to what percentage of league wide fumbles are attributed to QBs? RBs? And so on. I never seem to get QBs to fumble - user/CPU doesn't matter they never cough it up against my defense - even blindside hit sticks and strips never work...

Well I can tell you in my online CCM, with 32 user controlled teams, over SIX full seasons, I've caused a total of 1 fumble from a designed qb run. Keep in mind plenty of guys run the option in this league and Ive got plenty of hit power, block shed, tackle, play rec and awr on my defense.

Ive caused plenty of fumbles on qbs running around trying to throw but only 1 on a qb draw or option play. To be specific it was on a qb draw up the middle and I got a clean hitstick, other than that qbs run through defenders on the regular. Doesn't matter which qb either RG3 or Sam Bradford they easily truck through the line.

[Trick13]

Quote: Originally Posted by gaberox

Well I can tell you in my online CCM, with 32 user controlled teams, over SIX full seasons, I've caused a total of 1 fumble from a designed qb run. Keep in mind plenty of guys run the option in this league and Ive got plenty of hit power, block shed, tackle, play rec and awr on my defense. Ive caused plenty of fumbles on qbs running around trying to throw but only 1 on a qb draw or option play. To be specific it was on a qb draw up the middle and I got a clean hitstick, other than that qbs run through defenders on the regular. Doesn't matter which qb either RG3 or Sam Bradford they easily truck through the line.

I agree it is a huge problem, was just wondering if the actual NFL stats indicate in terms of percentages that QBs are the highest group in fumbles.
Like, of all NFL fumbles from last season, what percentage are QBs responsible for?

[DeuceDouglas]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trick13

I agree it is a huge problem, was just wondering if the actual NFL stats indicate in terms of percentages that QBs are the highest group in fumbles. Like, of all NFL fumbles from last season, what percentage are QBs responsible for?

I would say they're going to account for the most fumbles but you'd have to look at the amount of fumbles that come from designed runs and scrambles rather than just total fumbles. QB's always usually have high(er) fumble numbers than anybody else because of the amount of strip sack type plays, fumbled snaps, etc.