MLB 13 The Show Title Update 1.23 Available Now, Details Included

[Bobhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by Iceman87GT

So their licensing agreement differs from MLB 2K's? Either that is the case or The Show could deviate from the style guide, somehow I doubt that the MLB would take away a license from a game as successful as the Show because instead of following the style guide to a the t they decided to have the correct hat for the Tampa Bay fake TBTC uniforms, MLB 2K13 was able to ship with the correct hat, I somehow doubt they would have forced SCEA to go back and change it to a hat that was never actually worn because that's how it is in the style guide. I get trying to avoid legal issues, but even if you make the decision to never deviate from the style guide even when you know it is wrong, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to then not communicate with the teams. Its clear that teams don't update their style guides regularly, so why would you not at the very least convey this to the teams themselves. For instance telling the Braves that their weekend alternates aren't in the style guide and thus they can't be in the game, that way they could make it into the next offering. Heck they may do exactly that, but I doubt it or else they'd be telling us something other than "We follow the Style Guide and only the style guide". I mean responding to posters with "We have to follow the style guide, but we have talked to *Insert Team* and told them that their style guide does not accurately portray their actual uniforms" is a lot more effective than "we have to follow the style guide". Its a flawed system; they have to go by the style guide, or face legal issues, but the style guide is wrong. If you were in that situation would you continue to do nothing or would you make some sort of effort to fix the problem. They can only do so much, but there IS something they can do, sure they carry no authority (they can't force a team to update their style guide), but they are in a better position to convince teams to update their style guides than most.

So now they are supposed to chase down all 30 teams about every single inaccuracy in each year's style guide? At what point are these guys supposed to develop video games?

Get real. You obviously don't know the whole story, stop pretending you do. And yes, the contract is actually different from that of 2K, because 2K negotiated one ahead of time through their exclusivity deal. Their contract is COMPLETELY different from SCEA's contract.

[HechticSooner]

Quote: Originally Posted by Iceman87GT

insert continuing rant

Dude you are now beating a long dead horse trying to ride from Mongolia to China. Just stop

[StrongIsland666]

all this update did for me what started freezing in my games...never had this issue til now

[Iceman87GT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

So now they are supposed to chase down all 30 teams about every single inaccuracy in each year's style guide? At what point are these guys supposed to develop video games? Get real. You obviously don't know the whole story, stop pretending you do. And yes, the contract is actually different from that of 2K, because 2K negotiated one ahead of time through their exclusivity deal. Their contract is COMPLETELY different from SCEA's contract.

You're making it seem as if they aren't fully aware that things are missing or wrong in certain style guides. They know things are wrong, but they can't correct them because that isn't in line with the style guide, they've even said as much at times. Not every team's style guide is wrong, some teams are, they wouldn't need to "chase down all 30 teams", they would need to get into contact with the handful of them that have stuff missing or incorrect and convince them to update it. The entire development team doesn't handle one thing at a time, they have different departments tasked with different things, so there would be plenty of time for the developers to develop develop the game. Or do you think making sure that ballparks are up to date and represented correctly wasting time and preventing the development of the game.

[Iceman87GT]

Quote: Originally Posted by HechticSooner

Dude you are now beating a long dead horse trying to ride from Mongolia to China. Just stop

So we should be content with inaccuracies? They aren't SCEA San Diego's fault, but they are still inaccuracies, how can you dismiss them? Did you even bother to read my "rants".

Its not beating a dead horse to say that they pursue a way that would allow them to follow the style guide and perhaps get the uniforms right.

You are boiling my point down to something that it isn't, I'm suggesting they change their course of action, you're arguing that they can't do anything but follow the style guide. A statement that, while true, is not a proper response to what I'm saying.

[crains13]

Quote: Originally Posted by Side Effect

Did you load Show Live or Save Live Roster before going into the game because they won't even show up in menus before you do either.

This doesnt work for existing franchise does it? I'm having the toughest time keeping Michael Bourn and Mark Reynolds picture. I had them both up until yesterday when I made a roster move and now I have their generated faces and cant get their real photos back. Very frustrating to say the least.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Iceman87GT

So we should be content with inaccuracies? They aren't SCEA San Diego's fault, but they are still inaccuracies, how can you dismiss them? Did you even bother to read my "rants". Its not beating a dead horse to say that they pursue a way that would allow them to follow the style guide and perhaps get the uniforms right. You are boiling my point down to something that it isn't, I'm suggesting they change their course of action, you're arguing that they can't do anything but follow the style guide. A statement that, while true, is not a proper response to what I'm saying.

So how would you propose they change something that can't be changed?



No, it's not perfect, but if it can't be fixed it can't be fixed. Sounds like you think you are being a pioneer but you are posting things that have been posted here for over 4 years now.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Enjoy the crusade.

[LaserRocketArm31]

Guys, no one is actually bound by the MLB style guide and no 2k absolutely does not have different contractual requirements regarding the style guide. If you have been around this business or follow any kind of sports apparel, cards, collectibles, and figures you would know that every time a company makes a mistake it is blamed on the style guide. There are not multiple style guides. However, every company is suppose to follow the style guide. Does it happen? NEVER. Is it punished? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I've been in this business since 1988 and every year and every sports line no matter the sport there are errors with the product. Even if their competitors got it right, they still say it is the style guide because they know you guys have no idea what you are talking about and it is an easy excuse. All of the hundreds of companies that produce MLB products receive the same style guide. As long as the product is approved when sent to the MLB, it is good to go. Now maybe SECA is unaware of this and they are using the style guide but 2k is aware of the nature of the business as they may have someone with licensing experience.

Again, all of the style guides are the same and no one has a different contract regarding accurate uniforms. The style guide is always full of inaccuracies. Anyone involved with sports licensing knows that it is the company's job to get right what the style guide gets wrong. The Rays powder blues are not in the style guide but you sure can buy the jersey and 2K put it in. As long as your final product is approved by MLB the style guide does not matter. It just sounds entirely to me that SECA is trying to play it by the book because they do not have anyone who has experience with sports licensing on their team to let them know how the style guide works in reality.