Madden NFL 25 Video - Exclusive Blocking Information (simfballcritic)

[BezO]

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6. new lateral & vertical displacement animations for OL & DL interactions.

Sim, hopefully you can answer this as this sounds like what I've been asking for since I've been on OS.

At 1:12 of the vid, the Rams' #79 drives a SF defender WAAAAY down field. I'm hoping that's the vertical displacement in action. If so...

What I'm more concerned about is the lateral displacement. Are engaged players able to move laterally?

One of my biggest issues has been that engaged players are stuck in one spot until someone wins. It kills the spacing on outside runs since none of the engaged defenders can flow toward the play. Because of that, RBs end up one-on-one with CBs way too often. Unlike real life where an engaged edge defender can still do his job, contain, Madden defenders have to disengage to have an impact. If lateral displacement is what I think it is, this issue may be addressed.

Quote: Originally Posted by simfballcritic

...You can get pressure with DE's now, real pressure, which is something I could rarely do in 13...

I've seen DEs get pressure before, but it always required quick disengagement. Can DEs get up field while engaged? Can they make a strong edge rush but have the OT ride them beyond the QB? If so, is the speed of these animations on par with real life?

[LBzrule]

Sim,

I need to know some things because right now I haven't gotten excited about anything that has been said which is why I haven't posted. I'm only going to ask on the stuff that I think can be talked about based on blog releases.

Now, the way EA has done things is their marketing feature has always been overpowered. This year they are touting the running game and I can only guess it is based off Adrian Peterson's body of work from last season, along with Cam Newton the year prior and RGIII this past season as well.

But I don't want to see every game end up with 200 + rushing yards. My question to you is the same one I asked Shop on his site. What is being done run defense wise with respect to the following:

1) Primary Support/Force Player
2) Cutback Player
3) Secondary Support/Play Action Responsibility
4) Spill Player
5) Chase/Boot Action /Reverse

Can you go into what they are doing IF they are doing anything on defense in reference to this or are they still going with run commit?

When you or anyone gets some time with the game again could you do us all a favor:
1) Call cover 3, Cover 6, Cover 2 Zone, Cover 2 Sink, Cover 1.
2) Line up in any under center 2 back or singleback formation.
3) Call Zone Stretch/Toss Sweep/Off Tackle
4) Is anyone on defense coming up aggressively and forcing the play back inside?
5) Is there someone on the inside of this force player establishing or attempting to establish position as the immediate cutback defender?
6) Does the play side corner, on the cloud safety side automatically bail on the snap because he should, he's the over the top player. The safety should be crashing his a$$ off playing force.
7) What is the OLB on that side doing?
8) What are the back side defenders doing?

I appreciate them working on the run game again, 2nd time in like 3 years, but I'll be damned if I want some overpowered a$$ running mechanic with no defensive principles in place and the only thing we have to deal with it is some sell out run commit BS.

Thanks

[Hova57]

LB they are crying out for some of your ideas for defense i think defense is at the point where alot of the stuff you talk about over the years is necessary now. I believe if this is true about the line and how it works you have start with defensive assignment, now that the oline is playing assignment based . alot of the offensive line stuff added falls in line with defense playing gap controlled premise .

[aspengc8]

Quote: Originally Posted by simfballcritic

The Infinity Engine augments the animations, the game doesn't run purely off of physics. Victor Lugo mentioned that last year when talking about the Infinity Engine. Basically it's like this, animations are triggered and the physics determines the outcome. That's why sometimes you still see the same animations because it's pulling from the animation library, but the physics can make the animation play out different. The goal is to eventually have the physics drive the game fully. I expect we will see stuff like that on next gen.

Any idea why their engine is so far behind 2k's? I mean, APF2k8 was using using this stuff 6 years ago, without canned animations. In that time frame EA could not do a little research or reverse engineer what they were doing?

[speedy9386]

Quote: Originally Posted by simfballcritic

I've seen most of it in action, some stuff is still being added. Shop was down with me earlier in the year when none of that stuff was in the build. He wasn't down with me a few weeks ago, and that's when I saw the stuff I mentioned. As of then it played out pretty good, but there are still things to be added and tuned. Pass Rush was nice in my opinion, at least for the state the game was in at that point. You can get pressure with DE's now, real pressure, which is something I could rarely do in 13. The be real with you the reason why I can't go into detail about certain things concerning blocking is because stuff is still being added, so they advised me not to be specific. They just allowed me to tell you guys what you can expect now, doesn't mean other things aren't there. I'll keep it 100, I hate being in a position where I know stuff whether it be good or bad and I can't talk on it. I can't wait for E3 cause at that point I'm going to give my impressions of the game based on my recent trip to EA.

What about the differential in pressure between the RE and the LE, does the LE still get more pressure?

[infemous]

Quote: Originally Posted by speedy9386

What about the differential in pressure between the RE and the LE, does the LE still get more pressure?

THIS!!!!!

PLEASE LET IT BE FIXED.

And also, please let DTs like Mt Cody be able to chase down a QB like Sam Bradford (with 70 speed) it shouldn't be a contest.