Madden NFL 25 Video - Playbook: Run Free with Trey Wingo and Doug Martin

[kingscrown]

For negative yardage is what I meant to say to finish that sentence

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

These screen shots make it look like the running would look pretty good. Screenshots Madden looks really good. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler

Quote: Originally Posted by kingscrown

Yes but you see guys going forward and then get pushed back for 5-10 yards

Yeah but that may not be the case anymore.

[Trick13]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Here's the best jukes of all time, feel free to compare and contrast to the trailer

With one exception, E. Smith did one that was pretty darn close, I did not see any jukes that look like "the Madden hop". Almost every juke starts with the players legs leaning hard // and then they move laterally while bringing their legs back under their body ||.

Man that video had me aching to play a game of flag football or PS2 Madden - the one with the tap-tap-tap feature where you could tap the "cut move" buttons in rapid succession and get a "shoulder shimmy".

Sweet video.



SageInfinite,

I get that it happens, but why? I have played other games that have solid characters and environments, why do sports games have that issue and why don't they fix it???

[ghettogeeksta]

In order to get the cuts right like in those real life highlight videos, they need to add footwork/cuts to the left analog stick.

So when you are running and you want to move to the right or left, when you hit the Left Analog it should trigger a foot-plant and cut move.

Then if you want to perform a stutter step juke, then quickly move the left analog stick from the right to left, or left to right depending on which way you wanna go.

Depending on what back you are using the output for each of these moves will be a little different, smaller quick backs will perform them more quickly than bigger power backs.

[The_Rick_14]

Quote: Originally Posted by Phobia

LMAO I find it incredible yall can't comprehend that I was MARKING the guy for a reference for YOU to watch it in the video. The point of the picture was not to show it 10 to 15 yards ahead but since you can't grasp this let me do ANOTHER picture since your comprehension skills between you and JP are legendary. If you gonna attempt to troll at least make a valid point

Wasn't trying to troll and thank you for doing another picture pointing out the player in the situation you were describing. I guess I just didn't understand why you'd take the time to take a screenshot and mark a player in it and not have it be of the situation at the time you are trying to describe. You have to admit it was easily possible to be mislead.

I just deal with people on a consistent basis that will exaggerate things with poor evidence to try to force their point and it bugs me. Sorry for the miscommunication.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by Trick13

SageInfinite, I get that it happens, but why? I have played other games that have solid characters and environments, why do sports games have that issue and why don't they fix it???

I got no clue my dude. I guess it's not high on the priority list. Maybe next gen they'll fix it. I know NBA2k has tried its hardest to eliminate oddities like this. Don't notice them too much in the show either. I just think alot of things that bother us don't bother Tiburon. I've spoken to guys that have been up there, and I don't know if it's the same culture up there, but alot of the time they just don't think things are a big enough deal. If it doesn't bother them, it shouldn't bother us. That's how they were.

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

I got no clue my dude. I guess it's not high on the priority list. Maybe next gen they'll fix it. I know NBA2k has tried its hardest to eliminate oddities like this. Don't notice them too much in the show either. I just think alot of things that bother us don't bother Tiburon. I've spoken to guys that have been up there, and I don't know if it's the same culture up there, but alot of the time they just don't think things are a big enough deal. If it doesn't bother them, it shouldn't bother us. That's how they were.

Key word, were. I don't get that feeling at all with the current dev team

[rootofalleli]

Quote: Originally Posted by jpdavis82

Here's the best jukes of all time, feel free to compare and contrast to the trailer

Great video! I liked the drive blocking downfield, the patience and control of the runners, the defenders trying to square up and contain... that's the stuff the trailer is missing.

Defenders in Madden chase the ball carrier like he just snatched their momma's purse. They launch themselves at the runner and miss when he instantaneously hops 5 feet. The runners in the video were shifty and elusive, not superhumanly quick. Madden does look a lot like football, but not when you look at what really works. Most of what those runners did to succeed in your video was about control, misdirection, and subtlety *Edit: They got away from defenders with small jukes, change of direction ability, and head/shoulder fakes, not dramatic special moves or speed bursts.* Madden defenders easily flood to the ball and suck the runner into a tackle. Real defenders need to contain, break down, and get a hand on a runner. That's one of the battles EA refuses to give us.