Madden NFL 25 Trailer - Run Free

[SageInfinite]

You guys have got me torn because I agree with both of you, . I really just want to be addicted to a football game again, it's been so long.

[Jistic]

I'd like to remind everybody to vote with their dollars.

[Buckeyes007]

this looks aweet

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Well unless you think that guy from EA is just flat out lying about EA focusing on only 10-15 games for new consoles, the announcement that they are developing 15 games with Frostbite and question that Madden is one of those 15 games slated for new consoles, that "miracle" is going to happen. Again, I agree that a new engine does not equate to a solid football game but I think it does equate to not carrying over the unrealistic movement of the animations from this console gen. Not when you have a EA Football GM from EA Canada, a CD from MLB The Show and tones of shared tech from more fluid movement games like BF and FIFA. We shall see shortly.

They said 10 -15 games in development for Next gen using Frostbite. They didn't say launch titles and they didn't say Madden. They also said most of those are new IPs.

I like your optimism, but I don't see it happening. I hope you're right though, but most likely... I am lol.

Besides, they mentioned games like Mass Effect, and Dragon's Age, as well as other well known franchises that will be using Frostbite. Why wouldn't they say Madden? Are they holding it as some big trump card? Doubtful. Madden isn't the BMOC for EA anymore. Most likely they didn't mention because... you can finish this sentence lol.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by Only1LT

They said 10 -15 games in development for Next gen using Frostbite. They didn't say launch titles and they didn't say Madden. They also said most of those are new IPs. I like your optimism, but I don't see it happening. I hope you're right though, but most likely... I am lol. Besides, they mentioned games like Mass Effect, and Dragon's Age, as well as other well known franchises that will be using Frostbite. Why wouldn't they say Madden? Are they holding it as some big trump card? Doubtful. Madden isn't the BMOC for EA anymore. Most likely they didn't mention because... you can finish this sentence lol.

To be fair this is exactly what he is quoted as stating, before even discussing the Frostbite engine.

"Historical transitions have been bumpy for a few reasons. One reason has been that a lot of the companies had too many titles. We had way too many titles in the last transition, and the more titles you have, the more expensive it is to convert them from one generation to the next.

" We're much more focused now. We've got a core group of ten-to-fifteen titles. We'll stage those in terms of the transition and manage those costs through that. Our goal is to keep the cost increase for R&D under $100 million. And some of that will be in this year, some of that in '14, and some in our fiscal year '15."

Again, unless the huge investment Cam Weber, among others, have stated was put into EA Football for new consoles is simply not true and Madden is not in that "core group of ten-fifteen titles", that seems pretty clear.

It's all good though because we should find out rather soon. Hopefully you are somewhere around here as soon as we do, right or wrong.

[Only1LT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

To be fair this is exactly what he is quoted as stating, before even discussing the Frostbite engine. "Historical transitions have been bumpy for a few reasons. One reason has been that a lot of the companies had too many titles. We had way too many titles in the last transition, and the more titles you have, the more expensive it is to convert them from one generation to the next. " We're much more focused now. We've got a core group of ten-to-fifteen titles. We'll stage those in terms of the transition and manage those costs through that. Our goal is to keep the cost increase for R&D under $100 million. And some of that will be in this year, some of that in '14, and some in our fiscal year '15." Again, unless the huge investment Cam Weber, among others, have stated was put into EA Football for new consoles is simply not true and Madden is not in that "core group of ten-fifteen titles", that seems pretty clear. It's all good though because we should find out rather soon. Hopefully you are somewhere around here as soon as we do, right or wrong.

It is entirely possible that Madden isn't in that group he's talking about. Even if it is, not sure it makes a difference.

Plenty of other interactions that they have to worry about in MAdden aside from running that I don't see in Battlefield 3. Yes they run very well, but there isn't any need to cut. No need to block. No need to catch. No need to jostle. There are a plethora of things that go on in Football that do not go on in Battlefield, because in Battlefield all they need to do is run in a straight line, walk in a straight line, or crawl in a straight line, or skulk in a straight line. Who is handling all those other animations that aren't accounted for in a FPS? Tiburon? I'd attach a video of me falling out of my chair laughing, but that's most likely against TOS.

I don't think Madden will be on Frostbite on next gen. At least not in its 1st iteration. Maybe not ever. Could be it's a brand new day over at EA, but the EA Sports teams have never been the most willing to partake of the fruits of non EA Sports dev teams labors. Anything is possible though.

Even if they do, I still don't think that guarantees anything remotely eye pleasing or simulation-esque. IMO, they've done less with more, than any other dev team I've seen, on any game, in any genre. This goes back to the beginning of Madden and Live. Always 20 steps behind other games in the animation department, on the same hardware.

I'd be more optimistic if they said the game was being developed by another EA studio. Just the way I feel.

[Smoke6]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

You guys have got me torn because I agree with both of you, . I really just want to be addicted to a football game again, it's been so long.

You know what, its been bothering me for part of the day watching these vids of people who have went to this EA event. They all start off with "EA is focusing on Running, or the passing" etc, etc, but one thing that comes across my mind is how...

None of these features that they work on seperately "ever seem to mesh" with eachother! And what boggles my mind is the fact that this team of devs cant seem to work together on all aspects of this game in one cycle and thus leaving us with what we have and how we feel about the game now.

Its like having a fighting game and all they worked on is the gfx and levels, but they'll get to the fighting part later. Just doesnt make sense!

But I still have hope reserved for them on nex gen!

[californ14]

EA, from what I have read is pushing 10 or so titles that will be run with the Forstbite 3 engine....Ea also states that the frostbite engine is the greatest first person shooter engine around....If that is where they are focusing the engine on and what it is built for, Madden probably won't be one of the games...