College Athletes Are More Than a Number, Why We Need to Understand That

[birdie1973]

They get a free education that is worth thousands if not millions of dollars.... They are hardly "unpaid"

[thelasthurtknee]

First off blame title nine not the ncaa for players not getting payed if u actually believe they should get more than they do. As long as title nine is in place forget players getting money.

But lets say the do. Ill take tebow on this since there was already a study. His scholarship was worth about 250, 000 over the course of his career at florida. Housing, food, books and education. Lets not forget a top notch doctors and trainers, world class football and strengt coach for free. Most important, no loans to pay back. But still tons of uniforms with him number were sold. He would make over a dollar a jersey. His jersey was one of them the mostly sold to date in college football. Numbers on college jerseys is a new thing as random numbers were used up till 10 years ago. Tebow would of taken home about 20, 000 on his jerseys. Thats it. School gets half as does the maker. 99.9 percent would not sell enough to cover the set up costs to make jerseys.

Kevin ware would get a piece for those shirts but also the college. Ould recoup the money for any outside medical fees from injury and rehad. Prob anonther 30, 000 to 70, 000 dollars. If u start paying players then schools will start charging them. But of course none of this while title nine in effect.

As far as ea goes, they pay millions of dollars a year to the schools already. With top schools making as much as a quarter of a million a piece. Also the ncaa told ea a few years ago they could use real players but the choose not too.

Players getting payed is silly. The make a fortune from what they get if they take atvantage of it. Why change it when it would really effect about .5 % of football players as most will not make a profit but it is true they arent marketed for this purpose unless ur a top player.

Also not one player outside of football would of made money. Basketball could but players dont stay long enough to generate profit. Just some insight.

[UMhester04]

When you guys get a chance, read the piece about paying NCAA players by Joe Nocera of the NY Times. Real good article.


Edit. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/ma...anted=all&_r=0

[soxnut1018]

Quote: Originally Posted by birdie1973

They get a free education that is worth thousands if not millions of dollars.... They are hardly "unpaid"

There are several problems with this argument. The first of which is that this education is not worth close to the value they bring in to the school. That would be like arguing actors shouldn't get paid since they get health care. Also, most college athletes are persuading from taking "real" classes because they would be too time consuming. There's a reason you have division 1 "student" athletes who still struggle to read.

College athletes, football players in particular, are doing a job that is causing incredible harm to their bodies and they need to be compensated for it. I understand that a free market system might be overly simplistic, but frankly, any system would be more fair than the one currently in place.

[JSU SWAC Champs07]

Playing College Sports is a choice not a right, kids are receiving a free education that can certainly last longer than their playing career...The problem is the kids arent taking advantage of their education point blank....These athletes today are receiving so much in Scholarships, Financial Aid, Work Study payments and not to mention under the table perks....As a student athlete I knew that I didnt have a shot to make it to the league so I took advantage of my partially free education.

And for those who complain about coaches salaries I could've sworn that they are professionals in their field, and then not to mention how could anyone really regulate payment, will the football player get the same amount as the kid on the womens soccer team? Title 9 will not let that happen....Not too mention most schools athletic dept break even at the end of the year so really all of this money is being used to run the dept and other sports.

Next up u guys are gonna say High School kids should get paid just cuz they play 1 game on ESPN...

All schools arent making money like the BCS schools..Once athletes start getting paid that will be the end of college athletics at alot of schools!

[JSU SWAC Champs07]

Quote: Originally Posted by soxnut1018

There are several problems with this argument. The first of which is that this education is not worth close to the value they bring in to the school. That would be like arguing actors shouldn't get paid since they get health care. Also, most college athletes are persuading from taking "real" classes because they would be too time consuming. There's a reason you have division 1 "student" athletes who still struggle to read. College athletes, football players in particular, are doing a job that is causing incredible harm to their bodies and they need to be compensated for it. I understand that a free market system might be overly simplistic, but frankly, any system would be more fair than the one currently in place.

Whos fault is it that they decided that would rather play football than get an education that is presented to them in terms of a scholarship....I guess we should feel sorry for them when they are out the league and working AT Walmart at 25 yrs of age because they chose not to take advantage of their FREE EDUCATION....

Some of the kids have better rides clothes and cars and jewelry than most of us.. No I do not feel for a college athlete have fun and enjoy the ride because after college is the real world. Everyone doesnt make it to the league!

[soxnut1018]

Quote: Originally Posted by JSU SWAC Champs07

Whos fault is it that they decided that would rather play football than get an education that is presented to them in terms of a scholarship....I guess we should feel sorry for them when they are out the league and working AT Walmart at 25 yrs of age because they chose not to take advantage of their FREE EDUCATION.... Some of the kids have better rides clothes and cars and jewelry than most of us.. No I do not feel for a college athlete have fun and enjoy the ride because after college is the real world. Everyone doesnt make it to the league!

Coaches TELL players not to take challenging classes. If their grades slip, they still have a scholarship. If their on-field performance slips, they don't. The notion of the student-athlete is laughable.

[JSU SWAC Champs07]

Quote: Originally Posted by soxnut1018

Coaches TELL players not to take challenging classes. If their grades slip, they still have a scholarship. If their on-field performance slips, they don't. The notion of the student-athlete is laughable.

So again whos fault is that these students who happen to be athletes chose not to take advantage of the education they are receiving?

Whats the point of going to college? I couldve sworn it was to get a free education....now if u dont wanna do that there are ways around it...tryouts for pro and development teams happen everyday!