NBA 2K13 Roster Update Details (4-2-13)

[cj2008nw]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyklug2013

Have you seen him play? The kid is a great basketball player. He can shoot, drive, defend, and set up for his teammates. He's an all-around talent. I know that I'm not the only one that agrees. As for Mo, he's a streaky shooter, but he's also a former all-star and can still get it done. He's had multiple 20 point outbursts in the past 10 games that have helped Utah surge ahead of the apparently not horrible Lakers... I'm done here. You have no idea what you're talking about and I don't want to stoop down to your level any further. Later!

you are such a HOMER... and I already said the Lakers had a Horrible season because of Injuries but I definitely know what I'm talking about... your over hyping a player that average 14 points a game you make it sound like he should be an all star or something

Look up Earl Clark he's had good games too through out the season but he is nothing more than a Role Player

[giftedchick]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyklug2013

I almost agree with everything you said. Almost. It is irrelevant to keep bringing up history. I did not until I mentioned that Utah made the Conference Finals a few years back, but this cj2008 fellow keeps mentioning how Utah is a horrible team because they haven't been to the Finals since 98. By that logic, the Knicks are a horrible team as well, as are the Clippers and the Grizzlies. I also think that Utah should have moved Millsap or Jefferson before the deadline, but that's a different discussion altogether. The part that I don't agree with, though, is how you say Utah only has Millsap and Jefferson and are not threats to anybody. That's where you're wrong. As of right now, they're a threat to the Lakers, being that if Utah beats them out for the 8th seed, LA's season goes down as the most disappointing in league history. We've also seen it with Memphis that an 8th seed can at least put up a fight against the top team. As for them "only having Millsap and Jefferson," Mo Williams is finally getting back in his groove and Gordon Hayward is coming along nicely. Derrick Favors has been terrific as of late, but unfortunately, Kanter is out for the rest of the season. Both Favors and Kanter have been dominant off the bench and could be starters for lots of teams in the league.

what i meant was.. millsap/jefferson are their only 'threats'... i cant imagine another team's scouting/agenda to be: "we really need to watch out for (favours, hayward, carrol, foye)".. not saying any of those guys arent talented, but a threat? i think not.

as for the lakers... the lakers are their own worst enemy... injuries and utter lack of chemistry was their downfall (although the season still isnt over - only half a game back)
the difference between the lakers and the jazz is they have multiple players (at different positions) who i would consider 'threats'

[mango_prom]

Quote: Originally Posted by cj2008nw

I'm sorry but just making the playoffs to get swept or beat isn't impressive to me at all that's just a waste of a playoff spot... If your not even going to be able to COMPETE

You do realize that's exactly the point of the current seeding system, right? The 7th and 8th seed are playing the 1st and 2nd because they're supposed to lose for the sake of good TV ratings by matching up the top seed in later rounds.

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The grizzlies are trash and have always been trash I though they were going to do great coming into the playoffs this year then they traded away Rudy Gay.... For cap space.... So I don't really expect much from them anymore

Rudy Gay? Really?
Now you might not know this, but there's a difference between NBA2k and real life...in a video game, Gay is a spectacular superhero-like player.
In the real world, he's giving you about 18 ppg shooting 40% from the field and 30% from 3. That's a joke for a guy taking 16 shots per game.

If you had actually watched a few Grizzlies games and looked up his numbers you'd realize that it was a great decision to trade him. He's insanely inefficient for a guy taking that many shots. Not a great passer, either.
Now Prince is a slightly worse rebounder, but he's simply more solid all around. Better passer, less turnovers, slightly more efficient offensively and doesn't shoot his team out of games with his lack of offensive IQ.

So to me, both players are on teams they belong on. Prince is contributing to a playoff team, while Gay chucks away in Canada.

The Memphis front office did the right thing, loading off a player that won't help them at all in the playoffs for a valuable role player and cap space.

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And what are you talking about the Nuggets were just in the Conference finals in 08-09 season and I respect the Nuggets more than the Jazz because they still Compete against any team they play against

Do you even read other posts? I've said the Nuggets only made it past the 2nd round once in 25 years (the exception being 08/09), you basically repeat that and disagree?

You're trolling, right?

[regGQ]

Weekly melo post

His inside/close/med ratings are 91/87/87

for reference

Kobe's 94/92/89
Durant's 93/94/92
Westbrook's 91/92/88

other updates to consider his offensive rebounding, low post offense, post fadeaway (Durant actually has a higher rating in that) and his hustle at 66 is a joke

also consider adding another signature skill, one of
heat retention/microwave/post proficiency/hustle points

[mango_prom]

Quote: Originally Posted by regGQ

Weekly melo post His inside/close/med ratings are 91/87/87 for reference Kobe's 94/92/89 Durant's 93/94/92 Westbrook's 91/92/88

Melo's inside rating should be lower than that, his FG% around the rim is comparable to players like Kemba Walker, good but not great at all.

Mid range scaling is something that I don't understand at all in 2k13. If you look at the league as a whole, it makes much more sense to put players into different tiers using maybe 5 or 10 point increments instead of this crap of +2,-3 and so on.
Using that logic, Melo is absolutely in the top tier of midrange players, but then again....if 2k would do it right, players like Mayo or Walker should not be that much worse in terms of their midrange rating.

I would even argue that players like Stephen Curry and O.J. Mayo should have higher midrange ratings than Melo/Kobe, with the shoot off the dribble rating being the deciding factor in making Anthony and Bryant superior scorers. But even if 2k wanted to do so, they couldn't becaues of twitter exploding from 12 year olds whining about their favorite superstar getting hated on.

[Blackhail92]

Quote: Originally Posted by mango_prom

Melo's inside rating should be lower than that, his FG% around the rim is comparable to players like Kemba Walker, good but not great at all. Mid range scaling is something that I don't understand at all in 2k13. If you look at the league as a whole, it makes much more sense to put players into different tiers using maybe 5 or 10 point increments instead of this crap of +2,-3 and so on. Using that logic, Melo is absolutely in the top tier of midrange players, but then again....if 2k would do it right, players like Mayo or Walker should not be that much worse in terms of their midrange rating. I would even argue that players like Stephen Curry and O.J. Mayo should have higher midrange ratings than Melo/Kobe, with the shoot off the dribble rating being the deciding factor in making Anthony and Bryant superior scorers. But even if 2k wanted to do so, they couldn't becaues of twitter exploding from 12 year olds whining about their favorite superstar getting hated on.

Melo's inside/med/3 point shot are fine. Maybe a slight bump in medium range. But as mentioned before his 5th sig skill should be heat retention/hustle points/ post proficiency. and his offensive rebounding,low post offense, low post defense(kobe has a better low post defense as of the current update)post fadeaway, and hustle could be considered for an upgrade

[mango_prom]

Quote: Originally Posted by Blackhail92

Melo's inside/med/3 point shot are fine. Maybe a slight bump in medium range. But as mentioned before his 5th sig skill should be heat retention/hustle points/ post proficiency. and his offensive rebounding,low post offense, low post defense(kobe has a better low post defense as of the current update)post fadeaway, and hustle could be considered for an upgrade

I have to disagree. Let's look at inside shooting%:

Lebron 78 FG% on 7 attempts
Durant 75 FG% on 4.5 attempts
Kobe 70 FG% on 5 attempts
Melo 55 FG% on 6 attempts

Melo has never shot worse at the rim than this season. Now there are a lot of things he excels at, but strictly talking about scoring near the basket, he clearly does not belong into a conversation about the most efficient inside scorers. It's not even close.

Also, why hustle points? His inside rating is already too high to begin with, now use a sig skill to further overrate his abilities? He is a solid offensive rebounder, which should be reflected in his OReb rating, but that's not related to scoring efficency, which is why I don't understand him getting the hustle skill.

[Blackhail92]

Quote: Originally Posted by mango_prom

I have to disagree. Let's look at inside shooting%: Lebron 78 FG% on 7 attempts Durant 75 FG% on 4.5 attempts Kobe 70 FG% on 5 attempts Melo 55 FG% on 6 attempts Melo has never shot worse at the rim than this season. Now there are a lot of things he excels at, but strictly talking about scoring near the basket, he clearly does not belong into a conversation about the most efficient inside scorers. It's not even close. Also, why hustle points? His inside rating is already too high to begin with, now use a sig skill to further overrate his abilities? He is a solid offensive rebounder, which should be reflected in his OReb rating, but that's not related to scoring efficency, which is why I don't understand him getting the hustle skill.

I understand. BTW many do know that Melo doesnt get many super star calls especially not around the rim(didnt shoot a freethrow on sunday against OKC till the 48th minute of the game. Even though he had 9 offensive boards. while KD had 12 attempts) and to answer your question about hustle points. It is because 2k obviously doesnt want to give him heat retention or microwave beause it wil make his sig skils as kobe or durant. And melo doesnt have as much 2k royalty as those two. therefore i was throwing out ideas of which COULD suit him. To me he just deserves heat retention