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[cj2008nw]

Quote: Originally Posted by giftedchick

lol i didnt intend to spark anything with my original comment.. was just making an observation imo.. its irrelevant for you all to be discussing the HISTORY of squads that no longer have the same rosters all im saying is.. (i think) the roster the jazz have now (no deron, boozer, malone, stockton) are far from threatening to anybody .. millsap/jefferson are about the only things they have going for them, and i dont think they can be contenders until they give up one of them to get a good guard/wing... or nab a good draft pick

That's in a nutshell of what I've been trying to say but I guess they believe the Jazz are going to do something in the playoffs

[JazzMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by cj2008nw

That's in a nutshell of what I've been trying to say but I guess they believe the Jazz are going to do something in the playoffs

No, you've been saying that Utah is a horrible team, in which they are not.

Should they have moved Millsap or Jefferson for a PG of the future? Sure. But they didn't. And guess what? They're still a pretty damn good team. How many "horrible" teams can be in playoff contention in the Western Conference?

You're basing Utah off a short stretch where they played horribly and got their confidence rattled. You take out that horrible stretch, which was arguably one of the toughest sets of games in the league at the time, and Utah could potentially be the 6th or 7th seed.

Put Utah in the East, and they'd be fighting for the 5th seed.

Now, I'm curious here: Do you think the Lakers are a horrible team as well?

[JazzMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by giftedchick

lol i didnt intend to spark anything with my original comment.. was just making an observation imo.. its irrelevant for you all to be discussing the HISTORY of squads that no longer have the same rosters all im saying is.. (i think) the roster the jazz have now (no deron, boozer, malone, stockton) are far from threatening to anybody .. millsap/jefferson are about the only things they have going for them, and i dont think they can be contenders until they give up one of them to get a good guard/wing... or nab a good draft pick

I almost agree with everything you said. Almost.

It is irrelevant to keep bringing up history. I did not until I mentioned that Utah made the Conference Finals a few years back, but this cj2008 fellow keeps mentioning how Utah is a horrible team because they haven't been to the Finals since 98. By that logic, the Knicks are a horrible team as well, as are the Clippers and the Grizzlies.

I also think that Utah should have moved Millsap or Jefferson before the deadline, but that's a different discussion altogether.

The part that I don't agree with, though, is how you say Utah only has Millsap and Jefferson and are not threats to anybody.

That's where you're wrong. As of right now, they're a threat to the Lakers, being that if Utah beats them out for the 8th seed, LA's season goes down as the most disappointing in league history. We've also seen it with Memphis that an 8th seed can at least put up a fight against the top team.

As for them "only having Millsap and Jefferson," Mo Williams is finally getting back in his groove and Gordon Hayward is coming along nicely. Derrick Favors has been terrific as of late, but unfortunately, Kanter is out for the rest of the season. Both Favors and Kanter have been dominant off the bench and could be starters for lots of teams in the league.

[cj2008nw]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyklug2013

No, you've been saying that Utah is a horrible team, in which they are not. Should they have moved Millsap or Jefferson for a PG of the future? Sure. But they didn't. And guess what? They're still a pretty damn good team. How many "horrible" teams can be in playoff contention in the Western Conference? You're basing Utah off a short stretch where they played horribly and got their confidence rattled. You take out that horrible stretch, which was arguably one of the toughest sets of games in the league at the time, and Utah could potentially be the 6th or 7th seed. Put Utah in the East, and they'd be fighting for the 5th seed. Now, I'm curious here: Do you think the Lakers are a horrible team as well?

LOL that's horrible that you would think it means something to be a 5th seed in a way weaker conference..
Lakers are FAR from a horrible team... they've had three HORRIBLE seasons to Laker Standard... but this season was filled with a lot of front office Blunders and Jim Buss making decisions with his emotions and not the better basketball decision

[cj2008nw]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyklug2013

I almost agree with everything you said. Almost. It is irrelevant to keep bringing up history. I did not until I mentioned that Utah made the Conference Finals a few years back, but this cj2008 fellow keeps mentioning how Utah is a horrible team because they haven't been to the Finals since 98. By that logic, the Knicks are a horrible team as well, as are the Clippers and the Grizzlies. I also think that Utah should have moved Millsap or Jefferson before the deadline, but that's a different discussion altogether. The part that I don't agree with, though, is how you say Utah only has Millsap and Jefferson and are not threats to anybody. That's where you're wrong. As of right now, they're a threat to the Lakers, being that if Utah beats them out for the 8th seed, LA's season goes down as the most disappointing in league history. We've also seen it with Memphis that an 8th seed can at least put up a fight against the top team. As for them "only having Millsap and Jefferson," Mo Williams is finally getting back in his groove and Gordon Hayward is coming along nicely. Derrick Favors has been terrific as of late, but unfortunately, Kanter is out for the rest of the season. Both Favors and Kanter have been dominant off the bench and could be starters for lots of teams in the league.

They are not game changing players at best they are role players idk why you think so highly of Hayward

[JazzMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by cj2008nw

LOL that's horrible that you would think it means something to be a 5th seed in a way weaker conference.. Lakers are FAR from a horrible team... they've had three HORRIBLE seasons to Laker Standard... but this season was filled with a lot of front office Blunders and Jim Buss making decisions with his emotions and not the better basketball decision

That is the sorriest answer to that question that I could have even imagined. Talk about a double standard...

[cj2008nw]

Quote: Originally Posted by tyklug2013

That is the sorriest answer to that question that I could have even imagined. Talk about a double standard...

There's no double standard at all Utah has been healthy for Majority of the season and are battling a team that has had most of their starters besides Kobe miss multiple games...

and KEY rotational players from the Lakers roster have missed most of the season

The Lakers have had more success than the Jazz even at their very worst.. with an injury plagued season

I believe they would have had a completely different season if everybody was healthy for majority of the season

[JazzMan]

Quote: Originally Posted by cj2008nw

They are not game changing players at best they are role players idk why you think so highly of Hayward

Have you seen him play? The kid is a great basketball player. He can shoot, drive, defend, and set up for his teammates. He's an all-around talent. I know that I'm not the only one that agrees.

As for Mo, he's a streaky shooter, but he's also a former all-star and can still get it done. He's had multiple 20 point outbursts in the past 10 games that have helped Utah surge ahead of the apparently not horrible Lakers...

I'm done here. You have no idea what you're talking about and I don't want to stoop down to your level any further. Later!