Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions (PS3, 360)

[Gerg04]

I just learned something while playing the demo today, and I'm kind of in disbelief. You can change your aiming marker forward or back and that will change your overall power of your swing?? This has never been the case (if I recall), you could always move the marker and see the distance to certain spots but if you wanted to hit it lighter you'd have to manually compensate that during your backswing, now it does it automatically depend on where you aim?

This is on simulation. I've been playing Tiger for as long as I can remember and was NEVER the type to play on the hardest difficulty, just wanted have fun. With the addition of CC and online games, the competitive nature brought me to not shoot -20 every round.

So I've been playing the demo on Sim since it dropped and have only managed to post -1 and E respectively. Love the challenge and risk reward and difficulty. But when I just figured this out it seems cheap. Of all the things added to make this game more challenging, only to add that automatic compensation in swing speed/power seems counterintuitive.

/end rant

Tl;dr the fact you can change the amount of power you put into your shot with the aiming arrow pre-shot seems way to easy.

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[HANDSWARD_EA]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gerg04

I just learned something while playing the demo today, and I'm kind of in disbelief. You can change your aiming marker forward or back and that will change your overall power of your swing?? This has never been the case (if I recall), you could always move the marker and see the distance to certain spots but if you wanted to hit it lighter you'd have to manually compensate that during your backswing, now it does it automatically depend on where you aim?

This is a change that was made last year, where we implemented the new swing mechanic called Total Swing Control. We eliminated the concept of set shot types and percentage swings. Now you create any type of shot you want by adjusting your aiming distance and shot setup.

You aren't automatically awarded the proper distance for what you have set up. You still have to execute the shot properly. On the backswing, you can underswing or overswing. On the follow through, you can be slow or fast. To get the correct distance for the shot you set up you need to execute the backswing and follow through perfectly.

[Gerg04]

Quote: Originally Posted by HANDSWARD_EA

This is a change that was made last year, where we implemented the new swing mechanic called Total Swing Control. We eliminated the concept of set shot types and percentage swings. Now you create any type of shot you want by adjusting your aiming distance and shot setup. You aren't automatically awarded the proper distance for what you have set up. You still have to execute the shot properly. On the backswing, you can underswing or overswing. On the follow through, you can be slow or fast. To get the correct distance for the shot you set up you need to execute the backswing and follow through perfectly.

Well I played 13 then without even knowing that. Ignorance on my part. However the idea you can place your aiming marker wherever and take a back and forth and hit your distance seems like the first place to start in realism.

You select your club, said club hits a certain distance. You need to add more, take a longer backswing. Need less, shorten your swing. Not sure why this would be changed when trying to "add" realism.

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[DivotMaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gerg04

Well I played 13 then without even knowing that. Ignorance on my part. However the idea you can place your aiming marker wherever and take a back and forth and hit your distance seems like the first place to start in realism. You select your club, said club hits a certain distance. You need to add more, take a longer backswing. Need less, shorten your swing. Not sure why this would be changed when trying to "add" realism. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2

If you do not execute the shot with PerfectSwing speed/Perfect Tempo swing, it will not go the distance the club indicates. This is also excluding the lie and wind impact. Not sure what the problem is......

[Gerg04]

Quote: Originally Posted by DivotMaker

If you do not execute the shot with PerfectSwing speed/Perfect Tempo swing, it will not go the distance the club indicates. This is also excluding the lie and wind impact. Not sure what the problem is......

Lol there is no "probem". Oh my opinion differed from yours, yes that means there's a problem I forgot...it was a statement anyway not a complaint. You take things too personally Divot you need to relax.

Anyway that's not entirely true. Because depending how far back you move the marker, the total distance of your swing changes.

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[DivotMaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gerg04

Lol there is no "probem". Oh my opinion differed from yours, yes that means there's a problem I forgot...it was a statement anyway not a complaint. You take things too personally Divot you need to relax. Anyway that's not entirely true. Because depending how far back you move the marker, the total distance of your swing changes. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk 2

Not sure why you feel the need to make this personal because I am certainly not. I also don't need to be told to relax as I am not the one who is making the kind of statements that you are. I am just trying to understand your criticisms. As far as your last statement, I don't see the difference between having a club with a range of distance versus a club with only a single distance potential. Either way, if you set up and execute the shot properly, you will get good results. Your club potential also changes when you add/subract draw and fade setups. If you are saying that each club should only have one potential distance, I don't have a "problem" with that either, but regardless, you will still have to execute the shot properly. That being said, I don't know of any Pro or any golfer who can hit lets say a 7 iron the exact same distance on every swing. I think we are splitting hairs here, but then again, I am probably wrong for trying to discuss this with you.....

[Gerg04]

Quote: Originally Posted by DivotMaker

Not sure why you feel the need to make this personal because I am certainly not. I also don't need to be told to relax as I am not the one who is making the kind of statements that you are. I am just trying to understand your criticisms. As far as your last statement, I don't see the difference between having a club with a range of distance versus a club with only a single distance potential. Either way, if you set up and execute the shot properly, you will get good results. Your club potential also changes when you add/subract draw and fade setups. If you are saying that each club should only have one potential distance, I don't have a "problem" with that either, but regardless, you will still have to execute the shot properly. That being said, I don't know of any Pro or any golfer who can hit lets say a 7 iron the exact same distance on every swing. I think we are splitting hairs here, but then again, I am probably wrong for trying to discuss this with you.....

Sir I'm not making it personal, nor saying it's an absolute travesty and I'm not buying the game because of it. It was a simple observation. I apologize for my ignorance of not seeing it last year.

My point is not about hitting any club the same distance every time. My point is, if you want to hit say your driver for power you should have to over swing/swing faster, not aim further. Conversely if you want to hit say your 9 iron 10 yards shorter than its distance you should have to scale your swing to compensate for that, not simply aim shorter and swing as far as the mechanic will let you.

Since we were talking realism and simulation, I feel that making adjustments in your swing manually, swinging harder/softer is more realistic than aiming further/shorter.

Nothing personal to you divot, nor is it a complaint. Just my observation. Sorry if I offended you.

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[Klocker]

hands,

can you tell us will TW14 be available on xbox a Digital download day 1?

thanks