Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 14 Removes Course Mastery System, Will Use Traditional DLC

[stormjr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mt Oread

Because if the average gamer spent $20-$60 on DLC courses, he is going to be far more inclined to stick with the old game than buy a new one with half the courses for another $60. If we are talking about buying the courses every year, then TW is the most expensive video game on the market. And TW is not a game that needs to be bought every year. There is no roster update, and for the average gamer, there is not much different at all.

But that's my point. DLC is NOT needed to play the game. Just like buying map packs for Halo is NOT needed to play that game.

Do they add to the long term playability? Sure. But in the end they are not required to play. There is nothing anywhere in the game that says that a gamer has to purchase the DLC to continue playing. Nor does it give other gamers who have bought the DLC an advantage.

If it was the other way around and there was (for some reason) a requirement to purchase the DLC, then I would agree 100%. But in the end, it is the 'average gamers' choice to supplement the game with DLC. They are not required to purchase the DLC.

[Mt Oread]

Quote: Originally Posted by stormjr

Do they add to the long term playability? Sure.

This is why. Sure, they can buy the new game for $60 and play the new hotness with 1/2 the courses. Or, they can play last year's game, which now has double the number of courses, and pay nothing.

The hardcore guy buys the new hotness. The average dude that just thinks having a golf game for his console is cool, which is 95% of the market, will see more value in playing the game in which he already invested money in courses. The old game is still fun. He doesn't read OS and gets inundated with news about new features.

I'm not saying he can't play the new game and have fun without the DLC. I'm saying he already owns a game he enjoys with more courses.

But feel free to explain why you think the sales tanked for TW 11 and TW 13. My theory is that golf not a game that strikes most as needing to be an annual purchase, and and EA bleeds this game for more money, which makes skippoing a year or two even more attractive.

[DivotMaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mt Oread

But feel free to explain why you think the sales tanked for TW 11 and TW 13. My theory is that golf not a game that strikes most as needing to be an annual purchase, and and EA bleeds this game for more money, which makes skippoing a year or two even more attractive.

EA is not "bleeding this game for more money". They release a version every year which is part of the licensing agreements they have with the PGA TOUR, etc. This is why EA tries new features every year to see what will grab the attention of more gamers and golf fans. Plus, there have been enough new features each year that it is not the same game every year, IMO. Some of the new features are subtle, but some are not such as TruAim, the TSC Total Swing Control from last year and August for TW12. Some features are a bust like the caddy in 12, the Tiger legend thing in 13. They are committed to trying new things to keep users coming back for more. TW14 will introduce more new features from a gameplay and presentation perspective than any other version I can remember. Keep in mind, they have not released very much information and very few videos of TW14 so far.

[stormjr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Mt Oread

This is why. Sure, they can buy the new game for $60 and play the new hotness with 1/2 the courses. Or, they can play last year's game, which now has double the number of courses, and pay nothing. The hardcore guy buys the new hotness. The average dude that just thinks having a golf game for his console is cool, which is 95% of the market, will see more value in playing the game in which he already invested money in courses. The old game is still fun. He doesn't read OS and gets inundated with news about new features. I'm not saying he can't play the new game and have fun without the DLC. I'm saying he already owns a game he enjoys with more courses. But feel free to explain why you think the sales tanked for TW 11 and TW 13. My theory is that golf not a game that strikes most as needing to be an annual purchase, and and EA bleeds this game for more money, which makes skippoing a year or two even more attractive.

You're not getting my point, so I'll just stop.

I would love to see the sales numbers for DLC. I'm guessing the 'average dude' doesn't buy $50 worth of DLC. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that the 'average dude' only buys a few courses if any.

[TajDeni]

with the historic edition, do the extra courses come on the disk or do you need to put in a code to download them? also do you need the online pass to purchase any additional dlc courses one may want?

[DivotMaker]

Quote: Originally Posted by TajDeni

with the historic edition, do the extra courses come on the disk or do you need to put in a code to download them? also do you need the online pass to purchase any additional dlc courses one may want?

Courses are on the disc. Online Pass comes with each new copy of the game and is not needed to purchase additional DLC for the game.

[TajDeni]

Quote: Originally Posted by DivotMaker

Courses are on the disc. Online Pass comes with each new copy of the game and is not needed to purchase additional DLC for the game.

thanks ....

[globalbeats7]

I hate this...every year I say i wont buy but then the online lobbies from the prevision versions dry up so i am kinda forced into buying the new one.... because online golf is just awesome when you find the right folks to play. but now that I have to spend additional money to download courses, instead of playing my way to free downloads, is a letdown and might persuade me to pass on it this year.

Though 20 courses is more than previous versions, i realize that. but there is something about playing countless hours and "earning" your way to a new course/courses that appeals to me. I think course mastery was a really good idea in '13, prob would have needed to be tweaked for this year but thats a moot point now.