MLB 13 The Show Video and Blog - Hitting Enhancements: Beginner Mode & More

[ParisB]

Quote: Originally Posted by tvman

I was going by Nemesis's comment which seems to contradict what the vid said. Mainly the part about his ability overriding the push pull thing.

His comment is in line with what the video is saying.

If your timing is "early", you will pull the ball a lot of time regardless if you're typically a balanced hitter.

If his timing was "good", he would probably be spraying opposite field a little more often.

[nemesis04]

Quote: Originally Posted by sbmnky

Did you test this out with different hitting types: Timing, Analog, etc? From what I recall, you prefer using the Analog system.

I am strictly a zone batting player.

I am not here to scare anyone, these were my observations with the system on my end. As I said it made sense and felt natural when the CPU was up at bat. When I was up at bat I felt a little disconnect with it. I much rather it be this way as opposed to the system putting me on rails and force the hits based on how they hit IRL. Anyway there were other guys playing and I am sure they have their observations too.

[Russell_SCEA]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

Personally that does seem kind of low. I'd expect a pull hitter to hit at least around 50% of their hits to their pull side... It's not something I've ever researched or thought about though, so I could be wrong. I'm also assuming the pull hitter was only a "pull hitter" and not an "extreme pull hitter." As for nemesis' observation though, I'd hypothesize that the bigger the timing window, the easier it is to bypass the hitting tendencies. In other words, what difficulty level were you playing on?

It depends on the batter F.Freeman's spray chart has 42% balls hit to right field. 50% would be an extreme pull hitter which F.Freeman isn't so the system is working properly.

[seanjeezy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

Personally that does seem kind of low. I'd expect a pull hitter to hit at least around 50% of their hits to their pull side... It's not something I've ever researched or thought about though, so I could be wrong. I'm also assuming the pull hitter was only a "pull hitter" and not an "extreme pull hitter." As for nemesis' observation though, I'd hypothesize that the bigger the timing window, the easier it is to bypass the hitting tendencies. In other words, what difficulty level were you playing on?

I'd actually classify 50% as an extreme pull hitter. Pujols had the most balls hit to the pull side this year, ~52%. The ranges are actually pretty small, a 7% shift to one side is the difference between a balanced and pull/push hitter

Edit:

Damn, ninja'd...

[MrOldboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

Personally that does seem kind of low. I'd expect a pull hitter to hit at least around 50% of their hits to their pull side... It's not something I've ever researched or thought about though, so I could be wrong. I'm also assuming the pull hitter was only a "pull hitter" and not an "extreme pull hitter." As for nemesis' observation though, I'd hypothesize that the bigger the timing window, the easier it is to bypass the hitting tendencies. In other words, what difficulty level were you playing on?

It seems like its in line with spray charts for base hits, I think. Its the home runs where I think this gets tricky.

What I am more curious about is if the system differentiates home runs at all. From what has been said so far I'd say that it doesn't.

Joey Votto hit 17/29 home runs to left of center in 2011. I'd honestly call that some heavy push/opposite power since it seems that even balanced hitters will hit more home runs to their pull side. If Votto is labeled as balanced in the game that would make sense for him. But not all hitters and I feel, need actual data, that a balanced hitter would hit most of his home runs to his pull field. The video mentioned that push hitters won't necessarily hit home runs to their opposite field which makes sense. But Prado, I think, was shown. What about a power hitter that is labeled push, can he hit home runs to opposite field?

For example in the video Bryce Harper has a 30/32/38 chart, which I assume is from a MLB.com chart of all his hits (including home runs) and he is labeled balanced. But if you look at his home run chart he is a 14/23/63 home run hitter. That is a pretty big difference from his hits to just looking at home runs. But from the video it seemed maybe this will workout, the part about push hitters not necessarily hitting home runs.

[Bobhead]

Quote: Originally Posted by Russell_SCEA

It depends on the batter F.Freeman's spray chart has 42% balls hit to right field. 50% would be an extreme pull hitter which F.Freeman isn't so the system is working properly.

Quote: Originally Posted by seanjeezy

I'd actually classify 50% as an extreme pull hitter. Pujols had the most balls hit to the pull side this year, ~52%. The ranges are actually pretty small, a 7% shift to one side is the difference between a balanced and pull/push hitter Edit: Damn, ninja'd...

Ah cool. I stand corrected then. Thanks guys. Also where do you even find these percentage spray chart data? It's something I've always wanted to look at, in terms of real life MLB.

[tvman]

Quote: Originally Posted by MrOldboy

It seems like its in line with spray charts for base hits, I think. Its the home runs where I think this gets tricky. What I am more curious about is if the system differentiates home runs at all. From what has been said so far I'd say that it doesn't. Joey Votto hit 17/29 home runs to left of center in 2011. I'd honestly call that some heavy push/opposite power since it seems that even balanced hitters will hit more home runs to their pull side. If Votto is labeled as balanced in the game that would make sense for him. But not all hitters and I feel, need actual data, that a balanced hitter would hit most of his home runs to his pull field. The video mentioned that push hitters won't necessarily hit home runs to their opposite field which makes sense. But Prado, I think, was shown. What about a power hitter that is labeled push, can he hit home runs to opposite field? For example in the video Bryce Harper has a 30/32/38 chart, which I assume is from a MLB.com chart of all his hits (including home runs) and he is labeled balanced. But if you look at his home run chart he is a 14/23/63 home run hitter.

That's a good point, about the hr. distribution. I wonder how Adrien Gonzalez looks on the hit distribution chart, he's about as opposite a field Hr. hitter as there is.

[MrOldboy]

Quote: Originally Posted by tvman

That's a good point, about the hr. distribution. I wonder how Adrien Gonzalez looks on the hit distribution chart, he's about as opposite a field Hr. hitter as there is.

This is the site I was using to get HR data.

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/deta...47&type=hitter

Gonzalez is in 2012 a 33/11/56 HR hitter. In 2011 he was 41/11/48
He still technically hit most of his HRs to right field the last two years. But I don't know how the game will handle this. He is a weird case though since he hits most of his HRs to either left or right, few to center.

Also just noticed this watching the video again, but the Carlos Gonzalez glimpse looked pretty good, had a high leg kick. http://youtu.be/ochFV9Ym6dc?t=3m7s