MLB 13 The Show Video and Blog - Hitting Enhancements: Beginner Mode & More

[SoxFan01605]

Quote: Originally Posted by tvman

I was going by Nemesis's comment which seems to contradict what the vid said. Mainly the part about his ability overriding the push pull thing.

What he's describing is also described in the video too, I think. It sounds like Nem's timing wasn't "normal." As he said, since he was early, he essentially became a pull hitter. That seems in-line with how the system is described in the video. I would imagine it would almost have to be skewed towards happening more for the CPU (one less input to account for), otherwise you'd have people screaming about not having enough control.

It seems it's essentially a modifier of sorts, so I would also imagine that, in addition to differentiation between hitter types from batter to batter, how much it is noticed on the user end will vary a great deal from user to user as well. If that's the case, it's something that should (in theory) become even more evident over time on the user end (as one get's accustomed to the new timing windows, etc).

I could be completely wrong though!

[sbmnky]

Quote: Originally Posted by nemesis04

Couple things about the push pull system. I thought you could really see a difference in the hitting tendencies against the CPU batters. I did not get the same sense when I was up at bat. My ability appeared to totally override the system, for example when using Jeter because of my early timing he was a solid pull hitter for me.

Did you test this out with different hitting types: Timing, Analog, etc? From what I recall, you prefer using the Analog system.

[wrightdavisrock]

Looks like they got rid of David Wright's high leg kick. Awesome

[myghty]

You know what is BS? That i have to wait till March to play this game...

Love the video explanation of hitting. Thanks.

[Russell_SCEA]

Quote: Originally Posted by nemesis04

Couple things about the push pull system. I thought you could really see a difference in the hitting tendencies against the CPU batters. I did not get the same sense when I was up at bat. My ability appeared to totally override the system, for example when using Jeter because of my early timing he was a solid pull hitter for me. Also worth mentioning due to a lack of time there currently is no AI for fielders to automatically adjust defensively based on the specific type of hitter. You can manually make the adjustments for yourself against the CPU but do not expect the CPU to adjust against you. The only one that is hard coded is the extreme shift for certain batters. Overall I like how the system is differentiating hitters but it did not feel complete to me in its current state. It does not hurt the game at all but to me at times I felt disconnected with it. The other guys may have different observations with it.

Don't scare me like that..............................anyway I just did a test with one pull hitter and one balanced hitter. Both players (human controlled) where thrown one hundred strikes with the wind off. In both instances they hit a majority of their balls with "Good timing" to their preferred zones.

The balanced hitter sprayed the field with around 34% balls hit to all fields and the pull hitter (F.Freeman) hit 40% of his balls to right field. So it's working correctly for human users as well.

[Bobhead]

Personally that does seem kind of low. I'd expect a pull hitter to hit at least around 50% of their hits to their pull side... It's not something I've ever researched or thought about though, so I could be wrong. I'm also assuming the pull hitter was only a "pull hitter" and not an "extreme pull hitter."

As for nemesis' observation though, I'd hypothesize that the bigger the timing window, the easier it is to bypass the hitting tendencies. In other words, what difficulty level were you playing on?

[OUSOONERS#1]

Very nice Thanks Ramone !!!!!!!!!!!!

[sbmnky]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bobhead

Personally that does seem kind of low. I'd expect a pull hitter to hit at least around 50% of their hits to their pull side... It's not something I've ever researched or thought about though, so I could be wrong. I'm also assuming the pull hitter was only a "pull hitter" and not an "extreme pull hitter." As for nemesis' observation though, I'd hypothesize that the bigger the timing window, the easier it is to bypass the hitting tendencies. In other words, what difficulty level were you playing on?

And to piggyback on this question, will the hitting type (timing, zone, analog) have any bearing on the timing window? It is reasonable to suggest a smaller timing window with a hitting type I'm skillful at will produce a more accurate spray charts based on hitting tendancies? And a bigger timing window with a hitting type I'm not very good at (ZAB) will produce the same spray chart?