FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfb33

I'm very interested to know what the scout have to say about Robert Mathis. I checked his stats and he have really low pass rushing skils (PM: 61, FM: 52) but very high coverage skills (MC: 88, ZC: 89). That seems strange for a ex DE, now playing 3-4 OLB that as always ranked a good amount of sacks since many season.

When Mathis came out from Alabama A&M he was originally an OLB. In fact, he posted a sub-4.7 40 time and showed really good agility and ability to move in space. Since he is now officially at OLB for the first time in a long time, he was "projected" to do well in pass coverage. His "pass drop" grade was very high as well as his recognition skills as they projected to his new position. Now the one funny thing is that as a DE, his pass rush skills and pass drop skills were a bit closer together. One of the most difficult things to do is project skill before the start of a new season when a player changes positions. Once more data has accrued over the course of the year, I am sure they will change to better reflect the current assessment of a player's skills.

[at23steelers]

@DCEBB: It is higher than a lot of top CB's though, which seems extreme. Idk, I trust your sources though.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by at23steelers

@DCEBB: It is higher than a lot of top CB's though, which seems extreme. Idk, I trust your sources though.

Don't focus too much on position though. Just because a player is labeled as a WR instead of a FB doesn't mean that he automatically is better at running a route or catching a ball. The same logical fallacy exists in this scenario.

I keep saying this but I will address it again: The ratings are very dynamic and change week to week. I am sure that any marks that seem "too high" will naturally progress toward the population average over time. Same with ratings that are "too low". In Mathis' case, a full year at a new position will change those ratings, I am sure.

[jfb33]

Thanks DCEBB for the explanation, really appreciated. By the way are you planing to do a global update in the near future? I have noticed the majority of players are updated as of 12 October, and few are from 3 October. I'm really exited to see new rating for player like J.J.Watt, who have a breakout year

[at23steelers]

Quote: Originally Posted by DCEBB2001

Don't focus too much on position though. Just because a player is labeled as a WR instead of a FB doesn't mean that he automatically is better at running a route or catching a ball. The same logical fallacy exists in this scenario. I keep saying this but I will address it again: The ratings are very dynamic and change week to week. I am sure that any marks that seem "too high" will naturally progress toward the population average over time. Same with ratings that are "too low". In Mathis' case, a full year at a new position will change those ratings, I am sure.

I totally agree with you about universal ratings and all and that his overall will change, but I do agree that I did a head-scratch when a DE / LB has a better man coverage rating than a top end CB. They should all be on the same scale. Just like I would wonder how a FB could have better route running skills than a top end WR, but I guess either is possible.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfb33

Thanks DCEBB for the explanation, really appreciated. By the way are you planing to do a global update in the near future? I have noticed the majority of players are updated as of 12 October, and few are from 3 October. I'm really exited to see new rating for player like J.J.Watt, who have a breakout year

I will try to get one out this weekend if I can. I updated a few last week but would like to get a global update this weekend or next. Really depends if I have time. I have been quite busy on the new ratings for next year in regards to some new ways of rating the various attributes for better in-game play. This year was a good test run to see if the site can be updated easily, considering the massive scale. It was a success. Next year I hope to have larger player profile pages including new profile pictures and more information like you find in the game. MAYBE even equipment? I bet that would help out some of the guys who who want to keep track of player equipment changes.

For now, though, I am really trying to focus on the new ways of rating players next year. The AGI, SPD, ACC, STR, JMP, and now STA ratings may be a bit more realistic thanks to some of the people doing the work behind the scenes. Could be a really big deal next year.

[DCEBB2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by at23steelers

I totally agree with you about universal ratings and all and that his overall will change, but I do agree that I did a head-scratch when a DE / LB has a better man coverage rating than a top end CB. They should all be on the same scale. Just like I would wonder how a FB could have better route running skills than a top end WR, but I guess either is possible.

Your statement basically helped my argument because they are all on the same scale, regardless of position. I will look into that further and see what I can find. If it is logically possible, then it should be a possibility in FBG.

[AaronS444]

Hi Dan.

I like your site and what you guys are doing, but start a year-by-year archive before it is too late.

It's great the sheer amount of players you have info on, but if I want to build the 2002 Packers roster, it's not gonna do me alot of good to hit your site and see that Brett Favre was a 60 rated player in 2011. What was he rated in 2002? 15+ years of players is great, but there isn't any practical use for that data as it is stored presently.

Sorry if that sounds critical, I don't mean it to be. Just a passionate football gamer that thinks an opportunity is being missed.

Good success to you and all your co-workers/associates in this venture!!