Madden NFL 25 to Include Actual NFL Referees?

[adfletch71]

The Madden series is dying a slow death. The once 7 million unit sold on consoles are less than 5 million now and even though the NFL is still popular, Madden is now being a joke around gamer tables and butts of ridicule. If this is something that EA wants too do for Madden14, than that's fine, but there is so much that needs too be fixed in gameplay and other areas, that I just wish they focus on these things that have been broken for almost 7 years. We have Gamechangers and other individuals on this site that interact with the developers, but from past experience these developers are focusing on things that most of the community doesn't even ask for.

Granted I do appreciate the Gamechangers and others that come on this site, but also we have had Ian and Phil along with Gamechangers back in 2010 I recall, and still some people say Madden10 is better than Madden13, go figure!!!. There is something wrong with that picture or there is a really bad disconnect with the developers of the Madden series. Every year sales have dropped since 2010, yet we still don't have things implemented in this series that have been debated since 2006. It really make u wonder if these guys are listening too use or or have some other agenda in mind. Yes madden have improved over the years and we finally have physics, but at a snails pace it have been done. MLB2k series is dead, NBA live series is cancelled, NCAA series is in trouble if they don't turn a corner. Yet we see the NHL series, FIFA, NBA2k series and The SHOW prospering. Why is that, because they are a simulation video game first and they innovate, then everything else follows. That's why they are doing so well and the Madden series needs too take on the same standards.

The SIm Standard, Rgiles, Ryanmoody, the Gamechangers and others won't do any good until these developers wake up and get there head out the sand. We want football, and not EA football, but what we see on Sundays. EA will not prosper until we get that and we have 7 years of proof of this fact. What else u going too do too make up for lost revenue EA, u already charging for online pass, MUT, DLC and other stuff. Get the fundamentals right please!!!!!!!!

[Pared]

Everyone was warned already. Continue with the off-topic posts and you will be banned. It's as simple as that.

[videlsports]

Wow the world has officially ran out of idea's

[Sanchez_Mareno]

Pretty meh on the refs being in the game, wouldnt mind penalties being tidied up

[D3athC1utch24]

These are things I would like them to fix/tune
Presentation they need to fix the crowd, players on sideline ,and player models
Gameplay they need to fix blocking, footplanting, and tune up the infinity engine,fix the route mirroring,and morphing.Also they have to stop letting the reciever and defender catch up too much speed on the deep ball
I would like them to add Team Play Connected Career or be able to be on the same team with your freinds online,and hava and OPTION to be drafted into the leage instead of always picking your team when creating a player

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by Steve_OS

[center] What are you hoping to see come out of this?

I hoping penalties not getting called because they don't exist is over (like the nuances of illegal block in the back - which is NOT clipping - and defensive holding and illegal contact - which is NOT pass interference). I'm hoping for stuff like there being no voice call for illegal forward pass is gone. I'm hoping for more execution penalties that don't require me to actually break the rules (i.e. player screws up what I'm trying to tell him to do instead of me actually on the sticks having to run over and jack someone up after the play, which I'd never do, instead, things like, I want to tackle the QB for a sack, but his TAK rating or AWR is bad and he hits the QB below the knees or helmet-to-helmet).

I'm hoping for simple stuff like the "FLAG" marker coming up during a play more often for penalties that occur during play, not just at the end and suddenly a flag is "out" ("out" because you never actually see one) for holding. I can see it with interference because that's usually the end of the play (pass is incomplete) and of course false start (no play at all), but not for like holding, offsides, illegal contact, etc. I hope to see a flag actually on the field and the refs actually throw it.

With the emphasis on player safety in the real game, we need more personal fouls. Crushing a defenseless receiver, better-done roughing the passer, unnecessary roughness that doesn't require you to hit stick someone 5 yds out of bounds (anyone actually do that?).

Also, in line with penalties - how about players get a "penalty rating" or some sort of reputation among the league officials. For example, a defender that causes a lot of interference will get a reputation for being too physical, so even ticky-tack calls will start going against him. Think Harrison and the reputation he has.

Some crews call more penalties than others and certain kinds of penalties more than others. Instead of just having the penalty sliders be the global rate, let it be a modifier for whatever that crew calls. With the real officials in, they could put them in their real crews and get the data on their tendencies. Even with fake refs, though, they can do this. Rotate crews like draft classes. "Crew 2" might call holding at the drop of a hat. "Crew 1" might 'let the guys play' and only the most obvious/flagrant calls get flagged.

I think things like this would get the penalties to be more fleshed out and the officiating more dynamic. I know there's the whole "We don't want a penalty/ref call to change the dynamic of the game" mentality that EA is said to have, but...Green Bay vs Seattle on MNF anyone? Kruger's stupid play on Thrusday night? The "we don't know who got it so let's say 'down by contact' in the GB/NO game (the ball was CLEARLY out). It happens. It's part of the game.

[jmaso1]

big deal not

[Rushdown]

Quote: Originally Posted by Steve_OS

What are you hoping to see come out of this?

I'm hoping to see some occasional gems, like

http://youtu.be/6D8aAC4jrPM?t=36s

http://youtu.be/OeaUN6jfvzo

and

http://youtu.be/eslz06J9hFw