NBA 2K13 Full Game Live Stream Coming September 19th at 5:00 PM EST

[Sundown]

Quote: Originally Posted by piccolomair

Id argue that blown dunks arent very common because most players dont just try to dunk every single time. Stamina does play a lot into whether or not you can get up there. In essence, if in the game the blown dunks are happening because the user is holding down the turbo button to finish aggressively (activating the dunk command) and then blowing the dunk, i feel that is accurate. Smarter players would learn not to abuse the turbo button or try to dunk the ball every time unless you are on of the special players who can (lebron, blake griffin, dwight howard). Not all 7 footers are capable of dunking every single time, just like not all athletic freaks (derrick rose for example) dunk every time. I guess 2k could have just designed it so that if your stamina wasnt high enough you do a layup automatically, but i feel this method might be better suited for users to adapt a reward/punishment concept when constantly just attacking the rim.

This would be a GREAT idea. Would actually make you wonder whether it's a good idea to try for the dunk. Only thing is, real NBA players are smart enough to know when they can dunk it. Players however will tend to just push it and end up with a lot more blown dunks because highlight dunks is kind of the point to some of them.

[liberaluser]

Piccolo's idea to balance dunking is pretty good, all I would add is have a specific blown dunk stamina rating which determined just how much a player could push themselves with multiple dunks over what period of time.

Dunking is a little out of control right now and stamina should matter more in doing it.

I'm happy signature skills are tied with stamina though, that's a good sign.

[xrobbyh14x]

It was nice to be able to check out a full game, and I was interested by the coach feedback they mentioned for My Career, where you will get yanked if you're trying to play out of your style. Real excited!

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Sundown

This would be a GREAT idea. Would actually make you wonder whether it's a good idea to try for the dunk. Only thing is, real NBA players are smart enough to know when they can dunk it. Players however will tend to just push it and end up with a lot more blown dunks because highlight dunks is kind of the point to some of them.

Not really. You're going to get complaints of dropped input. If the user wants a dunk, unless there is someone in the way, there should be a dunk attempt whether or not it was a good idea or not. At some point, the user has to learn. He has to take some responsibility.

[405Cowboy]

Thunder wear black shoes and socks on the road, not white.

[Streaky McFloorburn]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

Not really. You're going to get complaints of dropped input. If the user wants a dunk, unless there is someone in the way, there should be a dunk attempt whether or not it was a good idea or not. At some point, the user has to learn. He has to take some responsibility.

I agree. I'm fine with blowing dunks if my turbo meter that I can see is depleted, or the player is begging for gatorade, as it were. In the live stream however, that didn't appear to be the case, which makes it hard to learn and adjust. A player too tired to dunk should still attempt to do (and fail) if the user requests it, but it shouldn't be the same animation as their regular dunks.

It's tough because on one hand you have people who want everything to look like the real NBA, even at the expense of user influence, and others who want 100% control, even at the expense of realism.

In the NBA most missed dunks happen when a really good dunker gets really jacked up and dunks too hard, or when an older/less athletic player doesn't get their steps right. I don't how you'd duplicate either of those in a way that made the player feel in control.

[FLAWDAxBALLA954]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gosens6

In all my years of watching basketball, iv'e never once noticed the color socks any player has ever worn during a game. This is the NBA, not project runway. If you pay attention to accessories that much while watching a real game, you're on the wrong channel.

^^ THIS. That dude should be watching top model or something

[Nokstar]

Quote: Originally Posted by Streaky McFloorburn

I agree. I'm fine with blowing dunks if my turbo meter that I can see is depleted, or the player is begging for gatorade, as it were. In the live stream however, that didn't appear to be the case, which makes it hard to learn and adjust. A player too tired to dunk should still attempt to do (and fail) if the user requests it, but it shouldn't be the same animation as their regular dunks. It's tough because on one hand you have people who want everything to look like the real NBA, even at the expense of user influence, and others who want 100% control, even at the expense of realism. In the NBA most missed dunks happen when a really good dunker gets really jacked up and dunks too hard, or when an older/less athletic player doesn't get their steps right. I don't how you'd duplicate either of those in a way that made the player feel in control.

Great post...I hope extreme "sim" players understand what you are saying along with the 2k developers who attempt to try and make sim players happy. Its really seems like a lot of sim players don't understand there is absolutely NO way to make the game as sim as they want it to be without basically forcing every user they play against to play how THEY want them to play...which basically take the personal control away from the user.

I am one of the players that want as much control as possible and I realize that the game will never look..LOOK as realistic as real basketball...I just want the game to force me to use semi real basketball strategies and give me great basketball atmosphere to play in (graphics, sound, etc).

Every NBA 2k game after 2k8 attempted to accomadate extreme sim players by MAKING us do things so the game LOOKED like real basketball...this is what birthed all those canned animations that we realized we really didn't want. If it wasn't for that, I have a feeling that 2k13 would've been 2k9 to be honest.

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