NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Marc Gasol – 83, Pau Gasol – 87, Serge Ibaka – 81

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Quote: Originally Posted by RedRiddler

To you perhaps, our little dance is over...

Awww so he owns you in the debate and you run off with your skirt between your legs?

[ultima86]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteboSSK

Marc has never produced better than Pau. As a matter of fact, Marc's best year isn't even as good as Pau's worst season.

touche

Quote: Originally Posted by Itsfuntobethespurs

You must be the only Spurs fan I know that actually likes Parker that much. I know I don't lol I think an 84-86 suits him after his career year

not really in love with TP, moreso (*Barkley voice*) GINOBILI!!!!!!!!!! but Rondo's a 90. Rose 92. CP3 94. the only other 90 PGs would be Williams, Westbrook, and Parker

[SteboSSK]

I think the one thing that is never brought up about Dwill is that he is a poor defender. His defensive efficiency is on par with Nash.

[Itsfuntobethespurs]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteboSSK

I think the one thing that is never brought up about Dwill is that he is a poor defender. His defensive efficiency is on par with Nash.

Point guard defense is not important. No point guard can't stop another one except for Payton. That's why teams go with the Bowens, Pippens and Lebrons of the world to limit their abilities

[ForeverVersatile]

I like Marc better because he's tough and not afraid to get dirty and hustle. He has just as good of a game as Pau to me.

[MeTsFaN719]

Quote: Originally Posted by Itsfuntobethespurs

Point guard defense is not important. No point guard can't stop another one except for Payton. That's why teams go with the Bowens, Pippens and Lebrons of the world to limit their abilities

Well the removal of handchecking also has a lot to do with it. No disrespect to Payton as he is arguably the greatest defensive guard of all time, but handchecking certainly helps u to defend someone one on one. Its why point guards who can drive at will are pretty much unstoppable these days.

[SteboSSK]

Quote: Originally Posted by Itsfuntobethespurs

Point guard defense is not important. No point guard can't stop another one except for Payton. That's why teams go with the Bowens, Pippens and Lebrons of the world to limit their abilities

I firmly agree but not everyone gets this but it has to be used to separate the players when comparing.

[OTCU]

Quote: Originally Posted by SteboSSK

I think the one thing that is never brought up about Dwill is that he is a poor defender. His defensive efficiency is on par with Nash.

One thing I noticed about Nash is that he is smart enough to at least shade the offensive player to his help