NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

[Thunder Storm]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

Yes they do. Example - I attempt no steals - I get zero steals. I attempt 5 steals, get 1 one (Chandler covers up the missed 4). Net effect - +1 steal! Simple enough? Now, what do you want to call that effect?! Another poster said - Chandler allows him to pressure the ball more leading to tougher passes and more contested shots at the risk of the drive that Chandler covers up. What do you want to call that effect? You're coming off as if the effect is going to turn every teammate into Gary Payton. Well, hell, a guy that's rated 55 versus 50 is still ***. Why is this such a big deal for you? Just answer that. I'm not going to argue the rest with you.

Well put. The effect Chandler has translates into more opportunities to make good defensive plays. Thus 2K's increase in rating when Anchors are on the floor.

It makes sense.

[TheManofSteel3kO]

@RyanFitzmagic

You've turned this thread from being about the signature skills, to you trying to make a point at why this addition is so bad because of "Defensive Anchor" etc. You run your mouth about your opinion and such. But now can the topic be the focus. Instead of the bickering matter of stats and opinion. It takes two obviously a leader and coaches. Obviously players like Tyson Chandler is able to bring to the players what the coaches want better than most. And it left a lasting effect because they still have the coaches that were there and the players that played with Tyson are also still there. Then Tyson went to the Knick brought his presence there and the Knicks have Woodson to draw up the defense to help facilitate on the court. And Tyson as the "defensive anchor" is to make sure the players get the memo. So it's a two way street to walk on.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

... that's not making you better. That's just making you more willing to gamble. If your defensive anchor wasn't there, you could still get the 1 in 5 steals, because YOU'RE THE EXACT SAME PLAYER.

That's not making you better. It's making the EFFECT of you defense go up. It's allowing you to play a more effective but higher risk defense - which is effectively a defensive boost! It's called encapsulation. The details aren't the key. The overall message/effect is. That's all.

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A change in TENDENCIES, not ABILITY.

And - AGAIN - a tendency is NOT a rating. It's NOT a skill. Tendency to swing at a ball is not the ability to make contact. Two DIFFERENT things.

[RyanFitzmagic]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

That's not making you better. It's making the EFFECT of you defense go up. It's allowing you to play a more effective but higher risk defense - which is effectively a defensive boost! It's called encapsulation. The details aren't the key. The overall message/effect is. That's all.

Wrong. It's not making your player more able to get steals. It's making him more willing to go for steals. BIG DIFFERENCE.

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

And - AGAIN - a tendency is NOT a rating. It's NOT a skill. Tendency to swing at a ball is not the ability to make contact. Two DIFFERENT things.

I never said it was. But playing tighter defense because of your defensive anchor is NOT A CHANGE IN ABILITY. IT'S A CHANGE IN TENDENCY.

[Boilerbuzz]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

Wrong. It's not making your player more able to get steals. It's making him more willing to go for steals. BIG DIFFERENCE. I never said it was. But playing tighter defense because of your defensive anchor is NOT A CHANGE IN ABILITY. IT'S A CHANGE IN TENDENCY.

So are you saying you want it to affect team's tendencies instead of the skill? Is THAT the core of your argument. Because if it is, I apologize and I'll say you would have a valid argument. Not one that I would agree with 100%, but I could see the argument.

[lv2bll]

This arguing.......... No matter what either say its not changing anything on the others minds.

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[RyanFitzmagic]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz

So are you saying you want it to affect team's tendencies instead of the skill? Is THAT the core of your argument. Because if it is, I apologize and I'll say you would have a valid argument. Not one that I would agree with 100%, but I could see the argument.

That is EXACTLY what I'm arguing.

[Thunder Storm]

Quote: Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic

playing tighter defense because of your defensive anchor is NOT A CHANGE IN ABILITY. IT'S A CHANGE IN TENDENCY.

This is also true.

There has to be a middle ground, but 2K doesn't yet have the technology to make a one man anchored defense in real life play the same way in the game, the AI is not smart enough yet. The effect they've given Chandler is closest were gonna get. Deal with it.