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Old 08-30-2012, 04:27 PM   #201
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I'm always amazed at the lack of respect for Pippen. There's something to be said for being the best of your generation at something. Pippen was not only the best on ball defender of his time, he might be the best on ball defender of ALL time. He is also one of the best all around players ever. Don't mistake is lower ppg for a lack of scoring ability. Pippen could do ANYTHING there was to do on the court.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:38 PM   #202
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I grew up watching Pippen, the bulls Pippen not the blazers Pippen and a 92 overall is fine with me.. He's a very overrated passer and ball handler, not saying he wasn't good in those areas but all of you Pippen freaks are acting like he's Magic or Penny out there.. He's also an overrated defender, when it comes to one on one defense that is.. In a team concept he was simply amazing though, one of the best ever.. I don't know if many of you actually watched him play or if you're just going off what you hear or what but thinking he should be higher or lower just doesn't make any sense to me..

I was the biggest Jordan/Bulls fan than I know during that time period, I've saw Pippen play tons and tons of times and been to several games in person as well.. He's not as well rounded as some of you like to think, and he is and definitely not a top 10 freaking player of all time..

I could easily think of 5 SFs I would take over him
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:28 PM   #203
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so 12 points 5 boards and 5 assists gets you an 87 rating?...2k stop overrating Iggy!
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:27 PM   #205
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:33 PM   #206
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so 12 points 5 boards and 5 assists gets you an 87 rating?...2k stop overrating Iggy!
Maybe you didn't want the playoffs? Or you just fail to see how great of a defender Iggy is.. And 5 boards and 5 assists from a SG actually isn't that bad
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I grew up watching Pippen, the bulls Pippen not the blazers Pippen and a 92 overall is fine with me.. He's a very overrated passer and ball handler, not saying he wasn't good in those areas but all of you Pippen freaks are acting like he's Magic or Penny out there.. He's also an overrated defender, when it comes to one on one defense that is.. In a team concept he was simply amazing though, one of the best ever.. I don't know if many of you actually watched him play or if you're just going off what you hear or what but thinking he should be higher or lower just doesn't make any sense to me..

I was the biggest Jordan/Bulls fan than I know during that time period, I've saw Pippen play tons and tons of times and been to several games in person as well.. He's not as well rounded as some of you like to think, and he is and definitely not a top 10 freaking player of all time..


I could easily think of 5 SFs I would take over him
You truly must not have watched him play the Pippen (your comments confuse me) Pippen is the guy who made the point forward position what it is today, overarted ball handler?I really dont see how you can say that you have to understand bro Pippne played in a era when guys could get up and guard you when players were not only talented but knew how to really play the game. Pippen career stats are very misleading because during his time with the Bulls even with MJ you could count on 20 plus and 7 reb and 7 assist. How many guys can impact a game just on defense alone like Pippen, his speed play making and Athletic ability was super, next thing you will say is he was not that athletic. I grew up during the 90's and watch Pippen from 91-the Blazer days. Dont understand how you could take 5 other sf over him. I truly think PIP gets a bad rap due to guys really not being able to have watch him play during the 90's and from the hype of the NBA players of today
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You truly must not have watched him play the Pippen (your comments confuse me) Pippen is the guy who made the point forward position what it is today, overarted ball handler?I really dont see how you can say that you have to understand bro Pippne played in a era when guys could get up and guard you when players were not only talented but knew how to really play the game. Pippen career stats are very misleading because during his time with the Bulls even with MJ you could count on 20 plus and 7 reb and 7 assist. How many guys can impact a game just on defense alone like Pippen, his speed play making and Athletic ability was super, next thing you will say is he was not that athletic. I grew up during the 90's and watch Pippen from 91-the Blazer days. Dont understand how you could take 5 other sf over him. I truly think PIP gets a bad rap due to guys really not being able to have watch him play during the 90's and from the hype of the NBA players of today
I did watch him play, 80s and 90s and I can EASILY pick 5.. He was athletic sure, every all star caliber player in the NBA is athletic, what's your point? You can't say Pippen is the greatest SF of all time just because he was one of the best perimeter defenders of his era.. I guess that makes Dennis Johnson the all time best PG, Dumars or Moncrief the all time best SG after MJ, Rodman or Oakley or whoever the best all time PF, and Mark Eaton or Mutombo the best all time Centers?... Sounds about right to me..

Pippen is versatile offensively and could play the point forward role, I never said he couldn't.. But he is so overrated in that aspect.. Walking the ball up the court and passing it to MJ isn't exactly "great ball handling" .. Shaq could even do that.. Seriously you overrate that aspect of his game way to much.. He's by no means a Penny Hardaway or Magic Johnson type "big guard" the way you're trying to make it sound..

As far as defense goes, yes he is one of the very best of his era and of all time.. But his on ball defense is very overrated as well.. He wasn't guarding the smaller faster guys, that's why AI's highlight is crossing up MJ not Pip, he was over powered by the bigger forwards, that's why they had Rodman, he wasn't as versatile defensively as what you might think you remember seeing.. He was however VERY VERY VERY damn good as a team defensive player, probably top 5 in NBA history, he's the perfect team defensive player at the SF position IMO.. I'm not trying to knock him defensively, but I am being realistic here.. You do realize Harper is usually considered a top 5 defensive PG, Jordan at SG, Pippen at SF, and Rodman at PF.. See where this is going? There defense was built around a team style, not individual... And Pippen was simply amazing in playing that role..

And Yes I can pick at least 5 SF that I would take on my team before Pippen..

1.Bird
2. LeBron
3. Elgin Baylor
4. John Havelicek
5. Dr. J
6. Dave Debusschere
7 then Pippen/Worthy/Nique' Wilkins

If you preferred offense to defense you could easily take Rick Barry, or Alex English over Pippen as well.. I would include them both in my 7th place tie..

I would take a PRIME (even though that didn't last long) Grant Hill up in the top 5 and after a few more years probably even Kevin Durant over Pippen..

Dubusschere is probably the only SF on the list who was actually a better defender than Pippen was... Probably the best on ball defender ever and could pretty much play SG-PF and be very effective up around 12 boards a game as and undersized forward position.. Could guard almost every position on the court as well. And score some points...
Dr. J is very underrated defensively as well, not Pippen level but still and it's scary to think how good LeBron could have been defensively playing in that era with Pippen
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